investigating AIM-120 Can't track through 360 turns

[comie1]

Regardless of altitude the Aim-120 can't seem to track through a simple 360 (while supported or not)

The missile gets within 2nm when target is lost and when seemingly within parameters will not reaquire quick enough to utilize its energy advantage. 

low co 360 5.trk360 to cold.trklow co 360 5.trk

Edited June 28, 2022 by comie1

[Hobel]

One note on this, test the whole thing again with the Aim120C fired from the F15.

Optimally, the Aim120C must be fired by a real player.

[Aquorys]

Haven't tried the 360, but I have seen the nosedive AMRAAM a lot recently

[comie1]

6 hours ago, Hobel said:

One note on this, test the whole thing again with the Aim120C fired from the F15.

Optimally, the Aim120C must be fired by a real player.

Same result

[Маэстро]

Hmm..will investigate.

[comie1]

On 7/13/2022 at 3:18 PM, Маэстро said:

Hmm..will investigate.

Any luck with your investigations @maэctpo?

[comie1]

Looks like there has been a potential improvement with tracking? 

[comie1]

My Bad! Did some further testing and it's the same as it was. Two from Low level and Two from higher, each with a defensive shot to get the AI to break lock and one without.  

Edited August 21, 2022 by comie1

[Маэстро]

There will be some improvements soon. However, above tests not qute correct. It's better to set missile launch distance as NEZ for AI in advanced waypoint options.

The main reason of such behaviour is not tracking issue, but low closing velocity(rear aspect after maneuver) and lack of missile energy.

[comie1]

Ok I'll set that option now and test again. Any other parameters you would like me to set? 

"However, above tests not qute correct" There isn't exactly a test mission provided by you guys so I'm just giving examples to help with weird behavior. 

I only see one example of the last 5 where the energy of the missile is the issue... in the other 4 they go on an adventure to Mordor or somewhere....

Edited August 21, 2022 by comie1

[comie1]

I changed the AI option to NEZ and it made no difference to the missile behaviour, all had no ability to maintain a sufficient track 

[Маэстро]

49 minutes ago, comie1 said:

I only see one example of the last 5 where the energy of the missile is the issue... in the other 4 they go on an adventure to Mordor or somewhere....

The lack of energy is that I see in attached tracks from the first post. Could you please attach one more track where you expect missile energy is sufficient for intercept?

Unfortunately, acmi or GIFs can't help with debugging.

[comie1]

This one should suffice

q1.trk

[comie1]

Here are another 3 one more from low and 2 from high.  q4.trk q3.trk q2.trk

Edited August 21, 2022 by comie1

[Маэстро]

I'm sorry, but i still see launch distance for AI is set to random between Rmax and NEZ in these tracks.

[comie1]

So it was.. my mistake. The file open in ME always throws me. OK so in the new tests within NES they hit. 

So are you telling me that what is happening is when fired outwith NES an AIM 120 (like in the above tracks) will decided it probably wont have enough energy so just stops tracking? 

I had no idea that was a thing. 

[Маэстро]

It's already fixed internally. Missile will better track target in such conditions(and even will hit target in q4 and q3 tracks).

[comie1]

Oh cool. 

Can't wait to test it out 

[comie1]

On 8/25/2022 at 11:33 AM, Маэстро said:

It's already fixed internally. Missile will better track target in such conditions(and even will hit target in q4 and q3 tracks).

Did some quick testing there Maestro and they have significantly improved. Congrats 

Edited September 21, 2022 by comie1