Ka-50 Cockpit Versions

[VikVaughan]

I was browsing the internet reading up on the Ka-50 (theres some interesting info out there) and came across a real photo of its cockpit. I noticed that in this particular model, there appears to be no MMS display, and the backup ADI and Ekran are in a different place. I was curious if anyone had a good knowledge of the different variants and which one this would be, and the differences between them. Interestingly, there is also a version (don't have a picture) with an all glass/digital cockpit. Go figure!

 

[Chillspider]

looks close to me but is a litte different from DCS, ABRIS is blocked too its just the angle.

Edited December 31, 2008 by Chillspider

[Nate--IRL--]

Must have been one of the first prototypes....

 

 

Nate

[Slayer]

I thought I read that the ED cockpit was based on a early test version of the KA-50 cockpit. Too lazy to search it :P

[Chillspider]

looks like this one http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/114/ka50cockpit1ct3.jpg

and at this angle you can see abris and you can tell its close to the one u just posted because of the gauges under ABRIS . but DCS doesnt have those gauges located there so this version is close but not exact.

[Chillspider]

yes the DCS version i believe was based on earlier variants. I think it is also due to the limitations of available information they can acquire on the KA-50 im sure a lot of it is classified.

Edited December 31, 2008 by Chillspider

[Nate--IRL--]

yes the DCS version i believe was based on the prototype or first one that flew.

 

I'd say the DCS version is a bit more modern due to the ABRIS integration.

 

Nate

[Chillspider]

well the modern ones have FLIR and day and night systems but they haven't been in full production yet but they are there.

 

heres some info i found on recent variants that are there but there are not a lot of them.

 

 

Because of limited night-time capability of the original Ka-50 "Shkval" TV sighting and targeting system, modified versions of single-seat Ka-50 were built. They were named Ka-50N ("Nochnoy", rus. "Night") and Ka-50Sh ("Shar", rus. "Sphere" - because of spherical FLIR turret). Many variants were tried, on some original "Shkval" was supplemented by thermal imaging system, while on others - completely replaced by "Samshite" day-and-night system (also used on Ka-52), including French SAGEM or Thomson thermal imagers. None of those entered mass production so far.

Edited December 31, 2008 by Chillspider

[EvilBivol-1]

None of the cockpits in the photos above have the ABRIS. Instead, they have a simple paper map display.

 

The ABRIS was introduced later when or soon after the Ka-50 was tested in Chechnya. I don't know if the ABRIS was retrofitted to all Ka-50 airframes by now or only to some.

 

ED used airframe #25 as their model in the simulation. #25 was used as a test-bed for a number of trials, including new defensive systems around 2004. You can see a study of #25 below, although some cockpit equipment had by then already been different:

http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/kamov/ka-50/index.htm

[VikVaughan]

None of the cockpits in the photos above have the ABRIS. Instead, they have a simple paper map display.

 

The ABRIS was introduced later when or soon after the Ka-50 was tested in Chechnya. I don't know if the ABRIS was retrofitted to all Ka-50 airframes by now or only to some.

 

ED used airframe #25 as their model in the simulation. #25 was used as a test-bed for a number of trials, including new defensive systems around 2004. You can see a study of #25 below, although some cockpit equipment had by then already been different:

http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/kamov/ka-50/index.htm

 

 

Thats a prety cool website, been looking at various other aircraft.

 

 

Thanks for the info everybody.

[jason_peters]

None of the cockpits in the photos above have the ABRIS. Instead, they have a simple paper map display.

 

The ABRIS was introduced later when or soon after the Ka-50 was tested in Chechnya. I don't know if the ABRIS was retrofitted to all Ka-50 airframes by now or only to some.

 

ED used airframe #25 as their model in the simulation. #25 was used as a test-bed for a number of trials, including new defensive systems around 2004. You can see a study of #25 below, although some cockpit equipment had by then already been different:

http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/kamov/ka-50/index.htm

 

Whats under the blacked out bits to the left of the HUD in these pics ???

[Cobalt-VN]

Whats under the blacked out bits to the left of the HUD in these pics ???

 

 

that would be the RWR blacked out if im not mistaken

[Buren]

Which Ka-50 is DCS simulating?

 

Look at this picture. As you can see the countermeasure control panel is on the left side, on the right is an unkown panel to me, above it is a ligh blue box with some switches on it, which is connected to an additional part of the overhead panel (which is also not in the sim) and the most interesting stuff is what supposedly behind the censor box next to the hud - an advanced radar warning receiver (?).

 

So ED, what kind of Ka-50 are you simulating? Is it a training version, a toned down export canditate version, an older (80-90s) version or simply just simulated what Kamov let you?

 

I don't want to offense anybody within ED with this question, I am just simply curious. :)

[Geier]

We've already got this kinda thread in ru part

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=27252&highlight=%CA%E0+50+%E6%E8%E7%ED%E8

 

Summing all what was told by ED we can say it's 24,25, 26 model, without new warning system instruments

Here it is

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1161530&WxsIERv=Xnzbi%20Xn-50&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Ehffvn%20-%20Nve%20Sbepr&QtODMg=Haxabja&ERDLTkt=Ehffvn&ktODMp=Frcgrzore%2016%2C%202006&BP=0&WNEb25u=Zryvubi%20Nyrknaqre%20-%20Ehffvna%20NivnCubgb%20Grnz&xsIERvdWdsY=24%20LRYYBJ&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=58295&NEb25uZWxs=2007-01-08%2022%3A33%3A01&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=&static=yes&width=1200&height=812&sok=JURER%20%20(nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Xnzbi%20Xn-50%27)%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=7&prev_id=1249268&next_id=1151987&size=L