Unable to Uncage the Maverick Seeker

[derbarbarian]

Hey guys, 

So I'm having an issue with my Mavericks, specifically the AGM-65F. I can't seem to uncage seeker, It's set to either Button 12 on my HOTAS Warthog or C on the keyboard, I've tried both of those and no joy. I've tried holding C down for an extended period of time and it still doesn't work. I've tried mapping it to other keys and no luck there either. I have a feeling that I'm doing something wrong but if it isn't painfully obvious, I'm not quite sure what that is. Any input would be greatly appreciated. 

[LeCuvier]

I have tried the Uncage and Cage on my system and it works fine. Note: I use the "Realistic TDC Slew", so the seeker uncages automatically when I depress the button bound as "TDC Depress". But the Uncage works also if I use the China hat on my Warthog throttle.
I wonder if you have assigned the TDC to the DDI showing the Maverick format page (if that page is on the right DDI, move the Sensor Control Switch to the right. You should then see the "diamond" in the upper right of that page). If the diamond doesn't show on the Maverick format page, you won't be able to uncage the seeker.
 

[poxdoc]

I think you need to make sure that the Sensor of Interest is on the left MFD (i.e. make sure the diamond is in that MFD) by pushing Sensor Control Switch left.

[Tholozor]

It's not about assigning the TDC specifically to the left display (TDC assignment isn't to a display, it's assigned to the page on the display). TDC needs to be assigned to the Maverick Display page (whichever it's on, could be right or left).

For the OP, did you check the A/G master mode and Master Arm? A track would help.

[derbarbarian]

As always, you guys were right it was the sensor control switch not being on the left MFD, once I saw the diamond I was  able to uncage it. Though I do have a bit of an inane control question, the sensor control Aft and Forward, are those controlling where the seeker is looking on the missile itself? Or are those totally different controls? As I mentioned, it's a bit of an inane question, I'm still trying to work on what I need to map, etc. 

 

 

[derbarbarian]

I'm honestly getting a bit frustrated trying to setup the controls for it, I have a Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog with an F-18 stick. The default controls for the Maverick are on the throttle, it's Button 1, which is a little bead of sorts and it's really hard to precisely control that and get it locked onto a target, I was hoping to use one of the controls on my stick to control it, but it's refusing to let me when I try to change them under Axis commands, I've set keyboard commands as well and saved them, but when I get into the game it doesn't recognize the commands from the keyboard. I'm sure there's something I'm doing wrong, but again I'm not quite sure what it is at this point. 

[LeCuvier]

1. the sensor control switch does not control the seeker at all. Its positions LEFT, RIGHT, AFTcontrol which DDI is associatrd with the TDC.

2. For the TDC slew vertical and horizontal axes on the Throttle grip you should set a curve to make it more controllable. I use Curvature = 20 and Y Saturation = 50%

3. If you want to use "Realistic TDC Slew" you will find that "TDC Push" (Button 1) doesn't work well. I have bound a button on my stick to that command.
If you are short of buttons you should probably not use "Realistic TDC Slew".

4. I don't think that your stick has any spare axis that you could use for the TDC. And you cannot bind a button to an  axis

[derbarbarian]

5 hours ago, LeCuvier said:

1. the sensor control switch does not control the seeker at all. Its positions LEFT, RIGHT, AFTcontrol which DDI is associatrd with the TDC.

2. For the TDC slew vertical and horizontal axes on the Throttle grip you should set a curve to make it more controllable. I use Curvature = 20 and Y Saturation = 50%

3. If you want to use "Realistic TDC Slew" you will find that "TDC Push" (Button 1) doesn't work well. I have bound a button on my stick to that command.
If you are short of buttons you should probably not use "Realistic TDC Slew".

4. I don't think that your stick has any spare axis that you could use for the TDC. And you cannot bind a button to an  axis

The buttons I'm currently trying to assign it to on my stick aren't being used by anything. I guess I need to find someone using a HOTAS Warthog and see how they have it bound. The problem with it being bound to Button 1 is its either super responsive and overly sensitive, OR it barely responds to the input at all, this is without changing ANY of the curvature or saturation settings. It just seems to be really touchy sometimes and other times it barely responds to the inputs. 

[rob10]

2 hours ago, derbarbarian said:

The buttons I'm currently trying to assign it to on my stick aren't being used by anything. I guess I need to find someone using a HOTAS Warthog and see how they have it bound. The problem with it being bound to Button 1 is its either super responsive and overly sensitive, OR it barely responds to the input at all, this is without changing ANY of the curvature or saturation settings. It just seems to be really touchy sometimes and other times it barely responds to the inputs. 

1st, just to clarify, with the TMWH (assuming it's stock), you CAN NOT hold a depress and slew with the TDC slew controller (that's actually why there is even a "Realistic TDC slew" option in the game).  That's a hardware limitation of the TMWH.  You need to assign TDC depress to another button if you want to use realistic and press and hold while slewing.  Other throttles don't have this limitation (and I think, but can't remember for sure, modded TDC controller in TMWH also gets around this).

Also, TDC speed varies depending on which format (page) you're using it on (as is apparently the case IRL).

It is TDC (throttle designator controller) binding you need to set for this, not the SCS.

Also, if you're having trouble binding something (i.e. it won't pick up your axis movement), right click in the box for the binding and it will let you manually pick what you want to assign (button or axis).

Edited August 9, 2022 by rob10

[Frederf]

5 hours ago, rob10 said:

with the TMWH (assuming it's stock), you CAN NOT hold a depress and slew

I can

[derbarbarian]

On 8/9/2022 at 8:24 AM, rob10 said:

1st, just to clarify, with the TMWH (assuming it's stock), you CAN NOT hold a depress and slew with the TDC slew controller (that's actually why there is even a "Realistic TDC slew" option in the game).  That's a hardware limitation of the TMWH.  You need to assign TDC depress to another button if you want to use realistic and press and hold while slewing.  Other throttles don't have this limitation (and I think, but can't remember for sure, modded TDC controller in TMWH also gets around this).

Also, TDC speed varies depending on which format (page) you're using it on (as is apparently the case IRL).

It is TDC (throttle designator controller) binding you need to set for this, not the SCS.

Also, if you're having trouble binding something (i.e. it won't pick up your axis movement), right click in the box for the binding and it will let you manually pick what you want to assign (button or axis).

 

I'll take a look at the controls to see what I can do to get this working.