Question regarding the Radar RWS / TWS

[cmbaviator]

Hello gents.

 

I'm new to DCS and been studying the F16 since last Week End. In the chuck guide manual, it's mentionned that when in TWS mode, if you TMS Up one time, you end up in STT  ?

 

I thought that you have to TMS Up two time to be in STT even in the TWS mode.

 

So if i want to launch FOX3, with out the ennemy knowing, i have to be in RWS mode and just TLS Up one time ?

 

Also how to set up mulitiple lock on the radar in order to fire several FOX 3 to different target ? I know you have to be in TWS mode but i cant figure how to select multiple target

 

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[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

See if this helps...

[cmbaviator]

4 minutes ago, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said:

See if this helps...

Well its even worst lmao xD

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

4 minutes ago, cmbaviator said:

Well its even worst lmao xD

Yeah I know. Wait till you get in the Hornet. LoL
The F16 is less complex than the F18 while the JF17 (which is a surprisingly good module) is more streamlined in weapon's deployment than either, IMO. Every time I fly something else for a couple of months and return to these modern jets, I need a refresher but it gets easier with time. But that's DCS as there are many modules to learn and fly. The helos if you are interested are actually easier to cover as they have fewer weapons and no radar (save the later Apache).  

[skywalker22]

4 hours ago, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said:

See if this helps...

Last row, to go from TWS to RWS I have to long (or twice normal) press TMS Down if I recall (there already is a shortcut for TMS Left - IFF).

Edited August 9, 2022 by skywalker22

[Frederf]

Missile is always shot against "bugged" target. If track has a circle around it then it is bugged. It is not strictly necessary for anything else. For non STT launch you can be in either RWS or TMS with bug (but not STT).

RWS search is RWS without any bugged target. When there is a bug circle mark then you are in some kind of SAM (MAN, AUTO, two target) or some kind of target track (STT, DTT). In a simple case RWS search then designate on a contact gives RWS SAM and then designate again on this track gives STT. Pilots call SAM "soft lock" and  STT "hard lock".

TWS doesn't have a SAM type mode. There is TWS is nothing bugged or TWS with something bugged. It is possible to go into STT with TWS by designating a TWS bug again. Also TWS has two kinds of tracks where TMS up can be used to elevate from radar tracks to system tracks. In this way it may be needed to press TMS forward three times to STT in TWS.

To launch AIM-120 at multiple targets simply bug one, shoot, and move bug to another target and shoot again. The radar will keep the missile target active while you change bugs. It is possible to simultaneously guide 6 missiles against 6 targets using TWS.

[cmbaviator]

7 minutes ago, Frederf said:

Missile is always shot against "bugged" target. If track has a circle around it then it is bugged. It is not strictly necessary for anything else. For non STT launch you can be in either RWS or TMS with bug (but not STT).

RWS search is RWS without any bugged target. When there is a bug circle mark then you are in some kind of SAM (MAN, AUTO, two target) or some kind of target track (STT, DTT). In a simple case RWS search then designate on a contact gives RWS SAM and then designate again on this track gives STT. Pilots call SAM "soft lock" and  STT "hard lock".

TWS doesn't have a SAM type mode. There is TWS is nothing bugged or TWS with something bugged. It is possible to go into STT with TWS by designating a TWS bug again. Also TWS has two kinds of tracks where TMS up can be used to elevate from radar tracks to system tracks. In this way it may be needed to press TMS forward three times to STT in TWS.

To launch AIM-120 at multiple targets simply bug one, shoot, and move bug to another target and shoot again. The radar will keep the missile target active while you change bugs. It is possible to simultaneously guide 6 missiles against 6 targets using TWS.

thanks,

 

I found the radar of the F16 quite difficult with some useless features in my opinion, I find imo the radar fo the jeff much more easy and convenient to use/

 

in TWS, one tap is bugged, a second time is STT, in the F16, i never know if i'm bugged or in STT

 

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DOes it automatically go to STT ? because it went from Range 20 to 10 by itself

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[Exorcet]

TMS up once to track the target in TWS, you can track other targets at this point with the TDC. TMS up twice to bug the target, you can no longer track additional targets. TMS up three times to STT from TWS.

TMS right once to auto track as many visible targets as possible. TMS right twice to automatically bug the closest one.

The F-16's radar is pretty straightforward and user friendly.

[Frederf]

3 hours ago, cmbaviator said:

i never know if i'm bugged or in STT

Watch the blue "T" symbols showing where the radar is looking in elevation/azimuth. If the antenna is looking only in one spot and nothing else is on the scope then you're in STT. If you see those tall blue vertical lines on the scope then you're not in STT. If you have FCR cursors displayed, you're not in STT. What's confusing is the L16 info layer which will still shows stuff, not radar stuff, when in STT. To learn the FCR it helps to turn L16 off to avoid confusion until you have familiarity.

RWS goes STT automatically inside 5 miles. Your wingman will complain about this as he gets RWR yelling at him that he's going to die as you close in. TWS doesn't go STT auto that so it's nicer on your friendlies when joining on them. Every picture above I can tell at a glance you're not in STT by several clues.

Range automatic scaling depends on both your bug and TOIs (targets with missiles going to them). There are some exceptions but don't think of range adjustments as changing the radar itself at all. They're just different displays. If the radar has to change behavior it won't be related to display settings.