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I have found the discussion about the evolution of intercepts and timeline very interesting, as it is reflected quite well by the docs available (with all the caveats that this entails).
The jump between 70s - 2000s and around and post 2010s is quite neat.

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As far as I know the main things changed from older blocks were the added jammers by the intakes and beaver tail. Perhaps the added weight and change to the beaver tail adding the antenna resulted in some changes in balance. I'm trying to see if there were any other system differences but not really seeing any. If anything would more rearward weight perhaps prevent it from snapping over? Maybe the weight of the ALQ-126 antenna in the tail ended up being far enough back to tip that balance just enough.

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Shoes mentioned manual slats before they picked up the new 95s for VF-84. Hard to imagine anything drastic enough to change center of gravity,  though.  Would love to see a list of changes by bloc. 

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I thought it was interesting that all Bio's timelines were for the AIM 7's and not the 54's.  If I remember the quote correctly, "They were for carrier defense only."  seems like everyone straps 54's in their tunnels  and forgets the 7's were the primary A2A weapons

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19 minutes ago, AG-51_Sabot said:

I thought it was interesting that all Bio's timelines were for the AIM 7's and not the 54's.  If I remember the quote correctly, "They were for carrier defense only."  seems like everyone straps 54's in their tunnels  and forgets the 7's were the primary A2A weapons

And some forget it's not 1981 anymore, and the bandits we face aren't Floggers and Fishbeds anymore....

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Yep, and the 120's were still in the testing/production phase and never got to the Cat.

I'm an old tanker and we had M-48A5 trying to plink targets with the 105 we knew our "Ah <profanity> Ranges". 

When we got the M1A2's with the 120 smooth bore the standoff changed, but the tactics were the same

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5 hours ago, AG-51_Sabot said:

I thought it was interesting that all Bio's timelines were for the AIM 7's and not the 54's.  If I remember the quote correctly, "They were for carrier defense only."  seems like everyone straps 54's in their tunnels  and forgets the 7's were the primary A2A weapons

Yeah, originally the AIM-54s were very much earmarked for the fleet defence role, it wasn't until later in the F-14s servicelife that that started to change. Likely mostly about availability and cost and what role had 1st priority.

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14 hours ago, AG-51_Sabot said:

Yep, and the 120's were still in the testing/production phase and never got to the Cat.

I'm an old tanker and we had M-48A5 trying to plink targets with the 105 we knew our "Ah <profanity> Ranges". 

When we got the M1A2's with the 120 smooth bore the standoff changed, but the tactics were the same

I'm only a slightly younger USMC M1A1 tanker who wielded the 120, especially the DU M829A2 and A3 "silver bullet" in Iraq. We definitely took advantage of the ability to reach out and touch someone at 3-4km.  When we crossed LD, it was only tactical considerations on our load (normally 50/50 in the hydraulic armor protected ready ammunition storage but bad intel said an armor regiment was headed our way so the loaders mixed heavy sabot and then we had to switch everything back when that armor threat never materialized.  Lots of use of MPAT and HEAT, though. 

AMRAAM was ready to go for the F-14D with the APG-71 including the first test firing but never got the funding for the software updates which was diverted to LANTIRN, instead. 

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