"Enter+Alt" to make the DCS full-screen is no longer to work for the stable version "2.7.18.30765"

[scommander2]

I am unable to make the windowized DCS to a full-screen with "Enter+Alt".

My environment is:

1. a laption with the main monitor

2. an external monitor

I was able to launch the windowized DCS and draged and dropped the windowized DCS to the external monitor, then pressed "Enter+Alt" to make a full-screen DCS at the external monitor.

Since the stable version "2.7.18.30765", the "Enter+Alt" is no longer to work on my main monitor and my external monitor.

Can we have a fix for it?

Thanks.

 

[silverdevil]

2 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

I am unable to make the windowized DCS to a full-screen with "Enter+Alt".

My environment is:

1. a laption with the main monitor

2. an external monitor

I was able to launch the windowized DCS and draged and dropped the windowized DCS to the external monitor, then pressed "Enter+Alt" to make a full-screen DCS at the external monitor.

Since the stable version "2.7.18.30765", the "Enter+Alt" is no longer to work on my main monitor and my external monitor.

Can we have a fix for it?

Thanks.

 

there are few other posts going about this. some quite lengthy. not trying to be coarse. there is just no need to start another thread. i do not think there is a solution besides dev bringing it back. lots of people are not affected by not have the macro.

[scommander2]

@silverdevilshould I close this one?  I thought here is for the DCS bug placeholder.  Thanks.

[silverdevil]

Just now, scommander2 said:

@silverdevilshould I close this one?  I thought here is for the DCS bug placeholder.  Thanks.

nah you are good. i just wanted to get to you before someone razzed you

[scommander2]

Thanks.

I have posted few of my questions over the thread about the 2022 patch and I hope that here can make the issue offically.

Edited October 5, 2022 by scommander2

[scommander2]

The DCS ticket is created with "Ticket # 131403".

[SMN]

15 hours ago, scommander2 said:

I am unable to make the windowized DCS to a full-screen with "Enter+Alt".

My environment is:

1. a laption with the main monitor

2. an external monitor

I was able to launch the windowized DCS and draged and dropped the windowized DCS to the external monitor, then pressed "Enter+Alt" to make a full-screen DCS at the external monitor.

Since the stable version "2.7.18.30765", the "Enter+Alt" is no longer to work on my main monitor and my external monitor.

Can we have a fix for it?

Thanks.

 

I confirm that after the OB 2.7.18.30348 update, fullscreen mode stopped working. DCS Open Beta does not start in Full Screen mode and there is no possibility (as before) to switch to Full Screen mode by pressing Alt+Enter
The "full screen" checkbox is checked in the settings.
Question - What does the "Full Screen" setting mean now?

Edited October 6, 2022 by SMN

[scommander2]

Just now, SMN said:

Question - What does the "Full Screen" setting mean now?

Based on my testing, it means when we launch DCS and it will become a"full-screen" on the main display (monitor 1 only).  

If "Full Screen" is unchecked, it becomes the windowized DCS.

Based on the ticket response, ED has removed this feature completed for now

[Hiob]

16 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

Based on my testing, it means when we launch DCS and it will become a"full-screen" on the main display (monitor 1 only).  

If "Full Screen" is unchecked, it becomes the windowized DCS.

Based on the ticket response, ED has removed this feature completed for now

It seems to also make a difference, if the DCS resolution matches the system/native resolution. At least on my 4K system I get total different behavior when I go below that with the DCS resolution.

[scommander2]

2 minutes ago, Hiob said:

It seems to also make a difference, if the DCS resolution matches the system/native resolution. At least on my 4K system I get total different behavior when I go below that with the DCS resolution.

@Hiob Please correct me if I am wrong:  I have set my DCS resolution 1920x1080 to match my external monitor resolution, and I drag and drop my windowized DCS from my main display (3840x2040) to the external monitor and will make a full screen automatically?  

Thanks. 

[SMN]

24 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

Based on the ticket response, ED has removed this feature completed for now

So the "Full Screen" function in the settings is irrelevant? Checked or unchecked, Full Screen is not available right now.

[scommander2]

2 minutes ago, SMN said:

So the "Full Screen" function in the settings is irrelevant? Checked or unchecked, Full Screen is not available right now.

Yes, it is correct.

Quoted from my ticket:

"This feature has been removed to improve the performance of DCS World."

I am not sure why ED removed it for?  For VR? Not sure.

[SMN]

5 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

Yes, it is correct.

Quoted from my ticket:

"This feature has been removed to improve the performance of DCS World."

I am not sure why ED removed it for?  For VR? Not sure.

Why didn't they remove the "Full Screen" function in the settings, if it's not available now?
Strange...

[scommander2]

Sorry, I mean ED removed "Enter+Alt" function away, "Full screen" checkbox is still in the DCS setting but it is not "Enter+Alt".

[Hiob]

13 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

@Hiob Please correct me if I am wrong:  I have set my DCS resolution 1920x1080 to match my external monitor resolution, and I drag and drop my windowized DCS from my main display (3840x2040) to the external monitor and will make a full screen automatically?  

Thanks. 

No, sorry. That is not what I meant. When you put DCS to 3840 it should work properly in FS on your main display. Can you try and make your external display your main display in the windows display settings?

11 minutes ago, SMN said:

So the "Full Screen" function in the settings is irrelevant? Checked or unchecked, Full Screen is not available right now.

No, it is not irrelevant. But if it has an effect depends on your resolution settings. E.g. when you set DCS to something lower than your system resolution it will start either in Fullscreen or in a window depending on this checkbox. What was removed was the "Alt+Enter" function.

[scommander2]

@Hiobthanks and no worry.

ED also suggested me to set my external monitor as the primary monitor, and I told ED that all apps run on the external monitor are look too big to me and I would like to have them stay with 3840.

 

[Hiob]

1 minute ago, scommander2 said:

@Hiobthanks and no worry.

ED also suggested me to set my external monitor as the primary monitor, and I told ED that all apps run on the external monitor are look too big to me and I would like to have them stay with 3840.

 

Just for testing? It would just be interesting to see if it makes a difference.

[scommander2]

Quoted from my ticket:

"I am thinking that is it possible to provide an option in the DCS setting to enable/disable the feature "Enter+Alt"?

By the default, the "Enter+Alt"  feature is disabled and I can turn on it and restart DCS to make the "Enter+Alt" feature to be available after the DCS restart? "

Just now, Hiob said:

Just for testing? It would just be interesting to see if it makes a difference.

Will do ...

[SMN]

1 minute ago, scommander2 said:

Sorry, I mean ED removed "Enter+Alt" function away, "Full screen" checkbox is still in the DCS setting but it is not "Enter+Alt".

I'm not talking about Alt+Enter. I'm talking about the real Full Screen mode. I don't have Full Screen when this function is checked in the settings!
For example - when running DCS I can now see the volume control on the screen, in Full Screen mode previously I could not see it

[Hiob]

7 minutes ago, SMN said:

I'm not talking about Alt+Enter. I'm talking about the real Full Screen mode. I don't have Full Screen when this function is checked in the settings!
For example - when running DCS I can now see the volume control on the screen, in Full Screen mode previously I could not see it

For the 100. time the volume control is an overlay of the operating system. If everything works correctly, it will be in exclusive fullscreen, will nevertheless show the volume overlay, and reapply exclusive FS immedietly on its own. It is NOT a valid test for being in FS or not.

If it wouldn't show in the past, that's just a sign, that something was off with DCS. That it "worked" for you does not mean, that it was working correctly or as intended.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Hiob

[scommander2]

There is my test result, and it is intertested to me.

1. set my 1920 as primary first and 3840 as second, and the frequency on 1920 get mess up (ignore it for now)....

2. run the windowized DCS, and it will run a full-screen mode on the primary (since my DCS setting was set 1920x1020, and my DCS setting "full-screen" checkbox is still off).

3. exit DCS

4. switch my 3840 back as primary and 1920 becomes extended.

5. run windowized DCS again, it willl show DCS in full-screen on my 1920 extenal monitor (which is good, but I need  to test when I shutdown Windows and boot up again then run DCS if it can stay full-screen on my 1920).

I can play DCS again now as long as I have my 1920 connects with my laptop.  If I unplug my 1920, my DCS will run in dark somewhere, and I am not sure I can drag it back to my 3840.

@Hiobthanks for suggestion, at least it is a tempoary soultion.  But, I will contine to work with ED if I can have my "Enter+Alt" back if possible....

 

[scommander2]

Do another test, I will not never click "full-screen" checkbox again because it will force Windows to be full-screen and make changes for other app windoe sizes also  

[SMN]

1 hour ago, Hiob said:

For the 100. time the volume control is an overlay of the operating system. If everything works correctly, it will be in exclusive fullscreen, will nevertheless show the volume overlay, and reapply exclusive FS immedietly on its own. It is NOT a valid test for being in FS or not.

If it wouldn't show in the past, that's just a sign, that something was off with DCS. That it "worked" for you does not mean, that it was working correctly or as intended.

 

Hmm... I thought (and have read many times) that the ability to display the volume control (Fn+Volume Up/Down) is a simple indicator of whether the application is currently in full screen mode or not.

Ok, so how can you quickly tell if an application is in full screen mode or not?

Found the information:
If you ALT+TAB out of the game and the game minimizes, then its fullscreen (requires another application window in the background). If it stays open, then its borderless window.

This is exactly what is happening right now... If this is correct, then DCS starts in full screen mode...  Then my claim is not correct, sorry

 

Edited October 6, 2022 by SMN

[Hiob]

2 hours ago, SMN said:

Hmm... I thought (and have read many times) that the ability to display the volume control (Fn+Volume Up/Down) is a simple indicator of whether the application is currently in full screen mode or not.

Ok, so how can you quickly tell if an application is in full screen mode or not?

Found the information:
If you ALT+TAB out of the game and the game minimizes, then its fullscreen (requires another application window in the background). If it stays open, then its borderless window.

This is exactly what is happening right now... If this is correct, then DCS starts in full screen mode...  Then my claim is not correct, sorry

 

 

yeah, some things are wrong even when repeated a hundred times… 

Regarding your question. When you have g-sync capabilities you can turn on g-sync only for fullscreen and activate the indicator. Other than that I don‘t currently know of a safe way to tell. That said, when all is working as intended, it shouldn’t be a difference in fps.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Hiob

[silverdevil]

this is a general answer for any game claiming to be full screen and how to test. https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/348301/how-to-tell-if-game-is-running-in-fullscreen-and-borderless-window and https://www.technewstoday.com/how-to-full-screen-a-game/

haha first fix is ALT+ENTER LOOOOL!