Mission 4: Wingmen don't take off

[Fred901]

Hi,

In mission 4, I am the leader of White Transport. I take off and begin to orbit above the airfield. My wingmen took off but the blue transport and yellow transport planes were on the runway threshold but did not take off.

[Reflected]

Yes it's a general DCS bug that's affecting every campaign. 

@[ED]Obi (Normandy)

[Fred901]

Ok, thanks Reflected.

Edited November 2, 2022 by Fred901

[Reflected]

7 hours ago, Fred901 said:

Ok, thanks Reflected.

 

Thanks for the report!

[telf]

Just flown this mission myself tonight. All 12 of the aircraft, 11 AI plus myself, were up and formed at 3000ft within 10 minutes. I watched them on the ground taxi up to the threshold and take off individually. All looked normal to me.

Not sure why it worked for me. First time playthrough at the moment.

[Reflected]

It seems a bit random...in any case, it should be fixed with the next OB update, ED said.

[wurger13]

Hello,

Ive just tried mission 4 myself with the new Normandy 2 map and there is a P51 that is running blocking the entrance to the runway. If I don't taxi right away yellow flight takes off from the other side of the field and then blue flight taxis past and runs into the running P51 at the runway entrance. No matter how I time it, the AI run into this parked guy and sometimes don't even try to take off.   Also it seems there are aircraft parked in random fields etc.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong but nonetheless, I love your campaigns.

[Reflected]

5 hours ago, wurger13 said:

Hello,

Ive just tried mission 4 myself with the new Normandy 2 map and there is a P51 that is running blocking the entrance to the runway. If I don't taxi right away yellow flight takes off from the other side of the field and then blue flight taxis past and runs into the running P51 at the runway entrance. No matter how I time it, the AI run into this parked guy and sometimes don't even try to take off.   Also it seems there are aircraft parked in random fields etc.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong but nonetheless, I love your campaigns.

I just tested and it works fine. Yellow and Blue flight won't even start their engines until you start taxiing. So unless it takes 2-3 minutes for you to taxi to the runway, I don't see how that can happen. Do you have any unofficial mods installed?

[Reflected]

Also, can you please post a birds-eye view screenshot right after spawning? To see where your plane has spawned at the airfield?

[wurger13]

Hi Reflected...  Thank for the reminder about the other mods. I had the Civ and Mil AC mods installed and removing them fixed the problem.  Now I spawn in a different spot and everything works as it should.  Sorry for the self inflected bug report

[Reflected]

13 hours ago, wurger13 said:

Hi Reflected...  Thank for the reminder about the other mods. I had the Civ and Mil AC mods installed and removing them fixed the problem.  Now I spawn in a different spot and everything works as it should.  Sorry for the self inflected bug report

Glad to hear, thanks for letting me know. Yeah, ANY mods can do ANYTHING do DCS and its official modules

[Negativghostrdr]

This is happening to me as well (on Normandy 2.0, Multithreaded). There is one Mustang that stops on the runway that I must go around to take off.  I do not have any un-official mods, but I do have a lot of official DLC.  It does appear that there are a lot of aircraft just parked in farmers fields adjacent to the airport that I can see once I'm airborne.  I have had the issue where a couple of mustangs collide at the runway entrance on a couple of tries.  That does not happen every time however.   (My squad?) the mustangs stacked up behind me, definitely do not ever take off.  

[Reflected]

3 minutes ago, Negativghostrdr said:

This is happening to me as well (on Normandy 2.0, Multithreaded). There is one Mustang that stops on the runway that I must go around to take off.  I do not have any un-official mods, but I do have a lot of official DLC.  It does appear that there are a lot of aircraft just parked in farmers fields adjacent to the airport that I can see once I'm airborne.  I have had the issue where a couple of mustangs collide at the runway entrance on a couple of tries.  That does not happen every time however.   (My squad?) the mustangs stacked up behind me, definitely do not ever take off.  

Ok, these are 2 separate issues.

There are no planes parked in a field. If there are it's because you're either running the updated missions on the normandy 1 map, or you're running the non-udpated missions on Normandy 2. How that's even possible I don't know, I have no idea. Make sure your DCS is updated to the latest OB, and try running a repair too. If you post a screenshot I can help figuring out if it's A or B.

If your flight doesn't take off behind you, that's a core DCS AI bug that has been in game for 2 years at least. Please record a track and post it here, so I'm not the only one bugging ED's AI team to fix the most basic function one can expect from the AI  

https://forum.dcs.world/forum/423-ai-bugs-non-combined-arms/

[Negativghostrdr]

Will do.  Thanks for the fast response!

[Negativghostrdr]

As promised.  Here is a track showing my AI wingmen just hanging out in line to get on the runway...for eternity....

You can also see planes parked in the surrounding fields.  I ran a repair, I am running the latest version of DCS.  

buggymission4.trk

Edited May 2, 2023 by Negativghostrdr

[Reflected]

3 hours ago, Negativghostrdr said:

As promised.  Here is a track showing my AI wingmen just hanging out in line to get on the runway...for eternity....

You can also see planes parked in the surrounding fields.  I ran a repair, I am running the latest version of DCS.  

buggymission4.trk 20.32 MB · 1 download

 

Thanks. Can you please post it in the above mentioned section? Those who can fix it, or send it to the guys that can fix it are not monitoring theses campaign threads. Thank you!

[Negativghostrdr]

10-4.

[wurger13]

I was having a similar issue before I removed 3rd party mods...  Then I also ran the updater (that actually seemed to download and update some files) and then ran repair. Now everything works as it should.  It almost seemed like the campaigns didn't get properly updated during the usual open beta update that auto ran on the Friday the Normandy 2 map arrived.