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Allow me to add: You might want to think about clearing the runway axis! Remove all the trees and buildings that could interfere with aircraft take-off and landing! The problem is present on many airfields on the map!

Nice work! I've already treated Kenley in November 2022. Still nothing has been done... I had planned to make another more precise pass over the English airfields, but faced with the ignorance of the developers, I decided to stop! Maybe Ugra Media will listen to you more than I did...

Thank you very much Slippa, I too would have hoped that Ugra Media would have taken advantage of this... I would have done my best, too bad !

That's why I'm stopping giving out information !

Apparently, you're one of the only ones interested! As you write, "it's a shame"! But there's nothing else I can do! I've offered my services to historically improve the map's airfields... If the team needs it, they've got what it takes, otherwise they'll move on and ignore the post... You mentioned DD Fenrir: maybe he's helping Ugra Media with a PM, I don't know... As for me, I'm done!

No return for Ugra Media! It just goes to show how much respect they have for people who do research to improve their map ! I'm done wasting my time ! I won't give any more information to Ugra Media..! The post is closed for me !

Good evening, Is there any news about these German Flak wagons? Does anyone know if ED will make them available soon?

I have just downloaded the latest version of DCS. I noticed that you've added two aerodromes: High Halden and Dunkirk Mardyck. I've also noticed that none of the aerodromes that have been on the map since the beginning have been corrected. The question I have is whether you want to improve them based on the information provided by the community or leave them as they are? Because I'm not going to waste any more of my time providing you with information that you don't even know about!

Maybe they don't have the time! Yes,it's really regrettable it's a shame, especially as I spend a lot of time looking for all this information and apparently nothing has been improved! That's incredible too! I wonder if I'm not doing this for nothing!

Hi, NEEDS OAR POINT : Please respect the location of the 4 Blister hangars and the numerous dispersal areas! There are only 4 Blister hangars (in yellow) and not 12 ! There are also 2 PSP plate refuelling areas (in red restangle). No control tower and no solid construction! Both runways were SMT and not asphalt. 2 Blister hangars: CHAILEY: There were 4 Blister Sheds in Chailey (Yellow Circle) not just one. What's more, there were no other hangars (crossed out in red). There were 3 PSP refuelling areas (red rectangle). There were no control towers or permanent buildings:

Hi, The ALGs in England were operational for longer than the ALGs in Normandy. But there were a few wooden barracks but still no control tower. RAF Lymington : Runways X 2: Orientation / Length: 054°-234° / 1600 Yards (SMT) 157°-337° / 1400 Yards (SMT) https://www.atlantikwall.co.uk/atlantikwall/e_h_lymington_alg.php https://www.hampshireairfields.co.uk/airfields/lym.html Lymington layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: https://nfknowledge.org/contributions/lymington-advanced-landing-ground-overview/#lg=1&slide=0 In the following photos: In yellow, 5 Hangars blisters In red, a hangar In purple, PSP plate refuelling areas. RAF Funtington : Runways X 2: Orientation / Length: 095°-275° / 1600 Yards (SMT) 173°-353° / 1200 Yards (SMT) Funtington's layout is totally wrong! It's a made-up layout. Please change it because it's not typical of English ALGs and therefore it's not historical at all! I sincerely think that you should have asked the community for information on all the airfields on the map as it's not very historical in general, That would have saved time! I've already dealt with it on the previous page at the beginning of this post, but here I've managed to find an aerial photograph taken in june 1943 : This is the true layout: In yellow, 3 blister Hangars In red, as at Lymington, refuelling areas (3 areas) with PSP plates. In purple, the 2 SMT runways. In brown, the roads passing over the ALG and in green the neighbouring forests that can still be seen today: I re-edited the ALG on IL2 GB's Normandy map to look as it did in 1944: There are 3 Blister hangars (in yellow) and 3 refuelling areas (in red).

Hi, B-9 LANTHEUIL: Operational June 27 49°16’22”N – 000°31’41”W Runway: 07/25 _ 1200/40m _ Square-Mesh Track (SMT) Altitude: 157ft A single Butler hangar was present on the airstrip to the south. No hard construction or control tower. B-11 LONGUES SUR MER: Operational June 25 49°20'23"N 000°42'25"E runway: 13/31 - 1200x40m - compacted earth Altitude: 180ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-longues-sur-mer-b11-1109.html As usual, no permanent buildings, hangars or control towers. The airstrip is too close to shore! Move it further inland (see plan below). A-17 CARPIQUET: Caen-carpiquet airfield already dealt with by myself in the previous page of the post, but there are other things to clarify: Firstly, the runway and taxiways were not designed in asphalt but in concrete pavers, as shown in the photo below: In addition, the reproduction of the airfield on the Normandy 2.0 map is not complete: parking lanes are missing to the northwest,East and west of the airfield: Remove those trees in the middle of the airfield they don't belong there!!!! As we saw earlier on the American ALGs, there were still bushes and trees between the taxiways and runways because the engineers had just removed the overgrown vegetation to build the taxiways and runways. But on the permanent airfields there was no vegetation at all ! Correct representation of the airfield on IL-2 GB Normandy map with (In the red squares what is missing on DCS Normandy 2.0 map): It was planned to add a second PSP runway of 5,900 ft (Green arrow) The following 2 aerial photographs were taken on June 6, 1944: A JU-88 at the Carpiquet airfield:

Hi, B-2 BAZENVILLE: Operational June 16 49°18'18"N 000°33'44"W runway: 07/25 - 1700x40m/5000x120feet - SMT Altitude: 170ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-bazenville-b2-1096.html As usual, no Butler hangar, no hard construction and no control tower on the British ALGs ! Representation of the airstrip in IL-2 GB: Spitfires at B2 ,Summer 44: A picturesque landscape: B-3 SAINTE CROIX SUR MER: Operational June 15 49°19'11"N 000°31'09"W runway: 05/23 - 1200x40m/3600x120feet - SMT Altitude: 161ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-st-croix-sur-mer-b3-1098.html Sainte Croix sur Mer layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: Next Photo taken on 12 June 1944, during its construction: A lot of dust! B-4 BENY SUR MER: Operational June 18 49°17'54"N 000°25'34"W Runway: 18/36 - 1200x40meters/ 130 feet - wire-mesh Altitude: 180ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-beeny-sur-mer-b4-1097.html Beny sur Mer layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: Spitfire fighters belonging to No 412 Squadron on B4 airfield. In the background, you can make out the steeple of the church in Beny sur Mer, which still stands today: B-7 RUCQUEVILLE (MARTRAGNY): Operational June 25 49°15’11”N 000°36’58”W Runway: 17/35 - 1200x40meters/ 130 feet - Square-Mesh Track (SMT) Altitude: 220ft Rucqueville layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: Mustang of No 122 squadron: B-8 SOMMERVIEU: Operational June 29 49°17'59"N 000°40'16"W runway: 10/28 - 1200x40m - SMT Altitude: 191ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-sommervieu-b8-1111.html As usual, No butler hangar, no hard construction and no control tower !

There is no gunner seat on P-38 !

Hi, A-17 MEAUTIS: Operational August 16 49°17'04"N 001°18'00"W runway: 10/28 - 1524x35m/5000x120ft - Prefab Bitumous Surfacing/earth Altitude: 65ft https://forgottenairfields.com/airfield-meeautis-a-17-1081.html https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=130031 Meautis layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: No hard construction , no control tower as usual ! In 1947: A-20 LESSAY: Operational August 26 49°12'10.53"N 1°30'21.58"W runway: 07/25 - 6000x120ft - PSP runway: 13/31 - 5000x120ft - PSP runway: 07/25 - 1250x36m/4101x120ft - grass Altitude: 86ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-lessay-a-20-1093.html https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=130076 Lessay was an airfield used by the Luftwaffe before the arrival of the American forces: In may 44: On the next photograph, I've put some reference points that will be used for the other photographs: In red is the layout of the 2 runways, in yellow a racecourse which can be seen in the following photographs. In green are the access roads to the dispersal hangars built and used by the Germans and which remained until the Americans left the airfield for A-40 Chartres at the end of September 1944. In blue is another hangar that was there before the war and can be seen below: The plan drawn up by the American forces: The previous photograph shows the hangar in blue, the old parts used by the Germans in green, and the hippodrome that was there in May 44 in yellow. Another racecourse (in red) is present and can be seen on the following images. It is also reproduced (in purple on the representation below of the airfield on the Normandy 2.0 map): On the photograph above you can see that there is no Butler hangar, no control tower. Missing are the taxiways to the south of the airfield (in orange) and the dispersal hangars and their access routes used by the Germans (in green). Lessay in 1947: Above you can see that over time the runways and taxiways to the south of the aerodrome have faded. In the following phography I have redrawn the missing taxiways and runway ends: https://remonterletemps.ign.fr/comparer/basic?x=-1.506764&y=49.205155&z=14&layer1=ORTHOIMAGERY.ORTHOPHOTOS.1950-1965&layer2=ORTHOIMAGERY.ORTHOPHOTOS&mode=vSlider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txU-1gEzqDM A-21 SAINT-LAURENT SUR MER: Operational June 7 49°21'51"N 000°52'21"W runway: 15/33 - 1500m/5000ft - SMT Altitude: 142ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-saint-laurent-sur-mer-a-21-1099.html Saint Laurent sur Mer A-21 C (C for Cargo) was the first ALG in service. It was mainly used by C-47s for freight, casualty evacuation, etc. Please remove the Butler hangars, they don't belong there! No hard construction, no control towers ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWK5OHFo9Q A-24 BINIVILLE: Operational July 17 49°26'12"N 001°28'15"W runway: 04/22 - 1000x36m/3600x120ft - earth Altitude: 55ft https://forgottenairfields.com/airfield-biniville-a-24c-1086.html Biniville layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: No hard constructions, no control tower as usual ! I've redrawn the plan because it's not very legible on the plan above: In 1947:

Bernard Gardiner, a former "Tiffy" pilot during the Second World War. He is a member of the Hawker Typhoon Preservation Group. He is 102 years old this year ! https://hawkertyphoon.com/

Hi, A-9 LE MOLAY: Operational July 5 49°15'57"N 000°52'39"E runway: 04/22 - 4000x120ft - SMT Altitude: 150ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-le-molay-a-9d-1108.html Le Molay layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: Molay was the only airstrip with Butler Hangars. There were two located to the north-east of the airstrip. They were used to store equipment and shelter aircraft: 1947: A-12 LIGNEROLLES: Operational July 7 49°10'31.83"N 0°47'26.01"W Runway: 07/25 1524m X 37m Square-Mesh Track (SMT) and Prefabricated Bituminous Surfacing (PBS) Altitude: 440ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-lignerolles-a12-1520.html https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=129464 Lignerolles layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: A-14 CRETTEVILLE: Operational July 3 49°20'11"N 001°22'47"W runway: 04/22 - 1100x36m/3600x120ft - PBS (+ 425m/1400ft earth) Altitude: 90ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-cretteville-a-14-1091.html https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=129999 Creteville layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: A-15 MAUPERTUS: Operational July 3 Runway 1: 11/29 - 6000 ft/1800m Pierced Steel Planking (PSP) Runway 2: 17/35 - 5000 ft/1500m Pierced Steel Planking (PSP) Altitude: 459ft I've already covered the Maupertus airfield on the first page of this topic, but that was pre-Day Landings data. The following data concerns the airfield taken over and rebuilt by the Americans. https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=129999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maupertus-sur-Mer_Airfield The layout of Maupertus is not correct (in DCS this is the layout nowadays). Here is the layout after the landing when the Americans settled there: On the 2 images above, you can see that I've shown the road in yellow: this is to give a reference point. In the next photo, you can see the PSP slabs being laid to build the runways: Correct implementation of the airfield in IL2 "Great Battle" on the Normandy map: You can see that the tracks are made from PSP plates: A-16 BRUCHEVILLE: Operational July 7 49°22'07"N 001°12'55"W runway: 07/25 - 1524x43m/5000x140ft - Prefab Bitumous Surface (BPS)/Compacted earth Altitude: 60ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-brucheville-a-16-1072.html https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=130021 There's still no Butler hangar, no control tower, no wooden shack and no Nissen Hut, which were mainly found on British airfields ! A P-47D taking off before the runway is completely finished ! h

A-4 DEUX JUMEAUX: Operational June 18 49°20'50"N 000°58'55"W runway: 11/29 - 5000x120ft - Square Mesh Track Altitude: 139ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-deux-jumeaux-a-4-1102.html As shown on the plans of all the ALGs in Normandy, the taxiways, runways and aircraft parking areas (in black on the plans) are made up of SMT plates. Aircraft parking areas in white are of clay (unless otherwise stated): An air defence post: A-5 CHIPELLE: Operational July 6 49°14'30"N 000°58'16"W runway: 06/24 - 5000x120ft - SMT Altitude: 105ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-chipelle-a-5-1184.html In yellow, at the end of the runway, on each side there were Marshalling areas, made up of SMT plates, as shown below: These marshalling areas were present on all the ALGs in Normandy. General Eisenhower at Chipelle on 6 August 1944. A windsock can be seen in the background: A-6 BEUZEVILLE: Operational June 17 49°25'22"N 001°17'39"W Runway: 06/24 - 1500x45meters/5000x120feet - SMT Altitude 70ft https://forgottenairfields.com/airfield-beuzeville-a-6-1075.html The Beuzeville layout is not correct. Here is the real layout: Construction of the runway in SMT plate: CG-4 glider landing: A-7 AZEVILLE: Operational June 27 49°28'55"N 001°18'55"W Runway: 08/26 - 1150x45meters/3600x150feet - SMT Altitude: 90ft https://forgottenairfields.com/airfield-azeville-a-7-1076.html In yellow, marshalling area in SMT plate: A castle called "Chateau de Fontenay" and its farm (Ferme in french) were part of the airstrip's history. Before D-Day, it was occupied by the Germans. It was heavily damaged by Allied bombing in June 1944. Today: Maintenance of a P-47 in front of the castle: The castle before the war and today: The castle farm today: A-8 PICAUVILLE: Operational June 29 49°23'41"N 001°24'28"W runway: 07/25 - 1524x36.5m/5000x120ft - SMT/PBS Altitude: 70ft https://forgottenairfields.com/airfield-picauville-a-8n-1090.html The Picauville layout is not correct. Here is the real layout:

OK DD_Fenrir I understand. Thank you.

Hi, A-1 SAINT-PIERRE DU MONT: Operational June 17 49°23'30"N 000°56'42"W runway: 09/17 - 1500m/5000ft - SMT Altitude: 135ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-saint-pierre-du-mont-a-1-1100.html Please remove all these sheds, wooden houses and watchtowers! NO permanent buildings on any of Normandy's ALGs! It's not historic at all! Life on these airstrips was all about camping! Take a look at the following images: https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=130093 A-2 CRICQUEVILLE EN BESSIN: Operational June 17 49°21'58"N 001°00'23"W runway: 17/35 - 1500x..m/5000x..ft - SMT Altitude: 100ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-cricqueville-en-bessin-a-2-1101.html https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=130102 On the black and white photo above, you can see that the hedges leave just enough room for the taxiways and runway, in contrast to permanent English airfields (Tangmere, West-Malling, Ford, Biggin Hill, Kenley ....) and French airfields, such as Saint-Andre de l'Eure, where there is a forest right in the middle of the airfield! It's just not right for these permanent airfields ! A-CARDONVILLE: Operational June 16 49°20'42"N 001°03'52"W Runway: 16/34 - 1500x35meters/5000x120feet - SMT Altitude: 110ft https://www.forgottenairfields.com/airfield-cardonville-a-3-1104.html https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/?p=130108 P-47 parked next to a nearby farm: Staff tents planted under the cover of hedges:

Hello everyone, DD Fenrir, I opened a post more than a year ago about information on airfields, why create other posts? Why not bring everything together in one post instead of scattering it all? I've already uploaded most of the information you give, so maybe it's being modified, or at least I hope so!

Why? I don't think Ugra Media is more work because the work is already done! Above all, I think that the ALGs on the Normandy 2.0 map are like permanent airfields, whereas they were meant to be temporary airfields with tents and no wooden barracks or hangars. These airstrips were hastily built because the Germans were not far away. The engineers destroyed as few hedges as possible, just to make way for taxiways and runways. They weren't just fields like the permanent airfields. If the Normandy 2.0 map is supposed to be as historical as possible, then I'm trying to help the devs make it so.

Hi, We'll see if the devs take my information on board...

Hi, Advanced Landing Ground in Normandy: The Advanced Landing Ground (ALG) were temporary airfields used during the Battle of Normandy, from June to the end of August 1944. Some were built as late as August. So, of course, there were no permanent buildings or control towers. In the photo below, you can see ALG A1 Saint-Pierre du Mont: In the photo on the left above, you can see that the engineers did not raze all the hedges to the ground. They went straight to the essentials to build these airstrips, not like permanent airfields. There are no sheds or wooden huts. Air traffic control consisted of a few men with a radio like this: Link to an interesting website: https://www.dday-overlord.com/en/battle-of-normandy/alg/airstrips Here are a few videos of these ALGs. It gives you an idea of the atmosphere that reigned on these airstrips:

A Hawker Typhoon and a Tempest would be excellent for DCS ! Typhoon RB396 is being restored with the aim of flying it before the 80th anniversary of the Normandy landings. There is also a Tempest MkV under restoration. To begin with, a Typhoon would go very well with the Normandy 2.0 map. In fact, it's really missing in DCS! I know it's a plane with a fairly complex engine to reproduce but it would be great!