Virpil software question

[Burt]

Hello,

So I got the virpil CM2 stick base about 10 months ago and I programmed it to be on the Leftside because I didn't want it to interfere with my Realsimulator R3L viper setup on the rightside in any way. Now that my CM3 Throttle is getting ready to ship and when I program the device I would like the throttle to be chosen to the Leftside and CM2/hornet grip on Rightside like normal, will I loose my CM2 profile and DCS binding if I rearrange the CM2 base to the Rightside. I guess I can always just choose the CM3 Throttle to be on the Rightside and keep the CM2/hornet stick to the Leftside/center stick. I'm looking forward to that throttle but not rebinding and relearning the Virpil software. 

Thanks

[HC_Official]

you dont have to pick a side

[Burt]

Oh really ! wow okay Thanks! 

I will check out your tutorials. 

Edited November 18, 2022 by Burt

[Burt]

That’s cool your Havoc ! And I be been watching your tutorials already especially when I got my CM2 base … cool !

[HC_Official]

ah ok hombre, glad to have helped

[Scott-S6]

The sides setting doesn't actually do anything. It's just so that if you have two sticks (for space games) you can tell which is which.

[Burt]

Thanks Scott , I've had to CM2 stick base for almost a year now and I will be adding the CM3 Throttle in a few days as it just shipped today so I'm just going through a few things before hand and I'm not gonna lie but alittle scared about the Virpil software and I was stuck with the side picking thing LOL !  So, when I update the firmware for the throttle which is like the first step and complete the setup axis and save profile ect. when I add/plug in the CM2 stick base would I have to update the firmware on it also ? Kinda thinking if the throttle has the newest firmware but the CM2 base doesnt will the software tell me so ... to update it? 

Thanks again

[imacken]

Although I can’t see any reason why you shouldn’t update the stick to latest software, no, you don’t have to update. Your stick and throttle can have different firmware versions if you want. But, if you want to make changes to the devices, then you will have to have 2 versions of the software installed. 

[Burt]

@imacken- Okay I understand and will definitely take your advice. I guess before I add the throttle to the software is to do a firmware update and recal ect. the CM2 base then disconnect and add the throttle. I guess the best thing to do is just start all over. I appreciate it.

[imacken]

I would advise running the current build of the software/firmware, and update both your devices.  Assuming you are not running some ancient version of the software, you will be able to import your stick profile into the new version.

As an aside, you don't have to connect/disconnect devices when running the software.  That advice is only precautionary in case you select the wrong device etc.  There is no technical reason for doing it.

[Burt]

Okay great ! well I thought your only suppose to have 1 device hooked up at a time when installing a Virpil device as seen in many videos / manual ? I’ll be adding the new CM3 throttle to my rig and I already have the Virpil software installed when I got my CM2 stick base last year. 

[Burt]

Wait I understand now what your saying I need to check what software i have first then update to the latest/current and hopefully I’m on the current version. I’ll check this evening. According to the version dates I believe I’m on version 20201118. The latest patch update is for the new prime gear so should I update to the 20220720 Patch 1  version ? 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Burt

[imacken]

That version is about 2 years out of date. 
Use 220720 and update all devices. Make sure you export your profile from the old version first for your stick. I imagine the CM3 throttle will already be up to date. 
As I said, there is no technical reason for only having one device connected when in the software. Over the years, I have never disconnected any device. It’s just a precaution in case you select the wrong device. No harm in doing it, but definitely not necessary. 

[Burt]

Gotcha ! will do and I sure do appreciate it. I’m 57 and feel like a kid again excited to receive my new toy geeeez!
Best Regards 

[Burt]

One more question and I’m sorry it’s a lame one but I gotta get this out. The latest Virpil software 220720  as you mentioned I update on the Virpil site? I have 20210102 at the moment. And then do a Firmware update on my new CM3 throttle and also my CM2 base. I already exported that CM2 profile. I sorry I’m just getting started on this Virpil software and never updated when I got my CM2. 

[imacken]

Yep, you're correct. 

Download and install the latest version you mentioned, then update the firmware for both your new throttle and CM2 base/stick.  I would recommend creating a new profile as occasionally things don't transfer from older software, but try importing your existing profile and see if it's OK.

[Burt]

Great ! Thank you

[Burt]

I did it ! And it actually went very well. Love the Throttle but I can’t see myself using all the features it has to offer being just a dogfighter. Hopefully I will venture out to bigger and better things DCS has to offer. I had to revert back to TrackerIR just to rebind which I haven’t used in a long time and man neck is killing me. Thanks for all the help imacken and Videos Havoc. I’m done buying gear ! Rebinding 6 jets ain’t fun ! 

[imacken]

Great! I’m glad you’re happy with your Virpil kit! 

[Scott-S6]

3 hours ago, Burt said:

I’m done buying gear ! Rebinding 6 jets ain’t fun ! 

Before you do a firmware upgrade on it check back in - it'll change the name of the device which means all your binds are gone... You can make it easier to sort though.

[imacken]

That doesn’t always happen. Not quite sure what does make it happen, but only occurred a couple of times to me out of many dozens of firmware updates. 

[Burt]

I did back up the cm2/stick profile before updating the latest Virpil software But I just started from scratch. It was mostly the new throttle I had to bind. 

[Scott-S6]

10 hours ago, imacken said:

That doesn’t always happen. Not quite sure what does make it happen, but only occurred a couple of times to me out of many dozens of firmware updates. 

If you update infrequently, which seems plausible for someone that described themself as scared of the VPV software) then it's rather more likely that the accumulated updated will contain one of those that renames the devices.

[imacken]

The solution to this if it does happen is JoyPro, the best DCS utility I have seen. One of its many functions is the ability to swap binds to the new device if the ID changes. 
An invaluable tool in so many ways.