Terence Hill Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) hi ,since i got my new PC ,my computer will shut down while im flying VR missions or Training this happend after 30-60 minutes randoomly ,even nothing explodes or i just fly over the sea i got i7 12600k and 3080 nvidia with 850 W seasonic gold 32gb auf ram (2x 16) i updated drivers and bios ,did nothing with overclock or in bios (updated bios with software) so my pc should be fine hope you can help me ,i wathced HW monitor = nothing is hot dcs.log Edited December 6, 2022 by Terence Hill -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Terence Hill Posted December 6, 2022 Author Posted December 6, 2022 i just made a benchmark with cyberpunk ,3dmark and FurMark ,all went fine ,i dont get it why my computer shut down/reboot after 30-60 minutes of DCS -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Flappie Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Hi. What does you Windows Event Viewer says about these reboots? Please look into the System log. You also need to check your system temperatures (HWmonitor can do this for you). Last but not least, you should ensure your PC components are dust-free, especially your CPU and GPU fans. ---
Brzi_Joe Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Disable overclocking if you use it, that helped me. Fully disable. 1
Terence Hill Posted December 6, 2022 Author Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) @FlappieWEM shows nothing ,crash was 16:48 there is no message with crash at this time before or after ,i also turn auto restart off before cause this crashes happends many times since i got my new computer .But event manager dont show anything about crash Also this PC is brand new so no dust - and like i said ,i watched HW Monitor ,its all fine ,maximum is 70° GPU and 50-60° CPU -if nothing happend like now its even 45° GPU and 27° CPU @Brzi_Joei disable it with Nvidia debug mod ,cause i never overclock my GPU or CPU but it is a OC with 10% overclock by factory - even that dont work and crashed after about 60 minutes there is not stutter or lag ,the PC is so quiet and heat is perfect ,just randoom crash ,everything shutting down like i pressed the restart button . 30 minutes ago i realised that i got a second GPU (onboard ultra HD grafics) active - i just disabled it in drivers menue ,but im too tired to try 1 hour of dcs tonight ,will try it tomorrow and hope it will work - maybe this second gpu was the problem . sry for my bad english Edited December 6, 2022 by Terence Hill -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Flappie Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Your English is fine. Sorry, I had not read the whole first post. Yes, internal GPU can sometimes cause issues. We'll wait for your feedback. 1 ---
Brzi_Joe Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Take a look here, you are not alone. Unfortunately there is not exactly the same, people solve it differently, every case is unique. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/312876-computer-shuts-down-after-about-30-minutes-of-dcs/page/3/#comment-5101486 1
Terence Hill Posted December 7, 2022 Author Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) @Brzi_Joe thank you ! i dont test it but i thing this should be the reason : Seasonic recommended to use 2 PCI connectors at stead of 1 - i used always to put 1 6+2 in the PSU and 2 6+2 to the GPU ,i never could imagine using 2 connectors for 1 gpu - i hope this was the problem and i solve it ,will report after 1-2 days of testing it. Edited December 7, 2022 by Terence Hill 1 -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Terence Hill Posted December 7, 2022 Author Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) after 90 minutes of playing Campaign ,no crash so i thing and hope i solve it - thank you guys 1 more mission went also fine ,so i guess its solved . Edited December 7, 2022 by Terence Hill 3 -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Flappie Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Nice find! Thanks for your feedback. Enjoy the game. 1 ---
Terence Hill Posted January 11, 2023 Author Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) Just to let you know ,this didnt solved my problem ,1 week ago it crashes again and pc shutting down (with message "shutting down") or goes to silent mode .Only in DCS ,even Cyber Punk 4k with full mods for grafik or RDR2 with 4k and mods doesnt crash. I watched the heat and all is fine ,my gpu was 100% in VR DCS with 71°C CPU 12%-20% with 42°C Ram 75-82% with 43°C Usage of PSU was about 650-700W and i got 850 seasonic gold...Then i research the hole net . now i played 3 hours ,no crashes - what i did is : -Turn everything in device manager off ,witch can bring my hardware to shut down for energy(usb devices ,HP Reverb G2 ect. ) just everything in the device manager -changed my powersettings to full perfomance and under edvance settings ,all to never shut down or perfomance -aalso all to 100% minimum -check if all dll was correct installed - in cmd with "sfc /scannow" -Vram to 16384 -min and max i could play it now for 3 hours no crash and will report if it crash again Edited January 11, 2023 by Terence Hill -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Terence Hill Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Still crashin... PC shutting down and goes to SILENT mode but finally the event manager show me something : The device 'HP Reverb Virtual Reality Headset G2' (location '00####') is offline due to a user driver failure. A network restart WILL be attempted 5 times. Contact the device manufacturer for more information about this issue. Edited January 12, 2023 by Terence Hill -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Terence Hill Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) now ill change my PCI to Gen 3 : Gen3 still crash - try ram delete xmp and set to 3200 instead of 3600 Edited January 12, 2023 by Terence Hill -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Terence Hill Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) if no other game crash (3xA title in 4k) ,all stress tests works fine all benchmark test works fine ,only dcs in vr crash no other vr title ,then i have to be sure something wrong with DCS and not my hardware . Edited January 12, 2023 by Terence Hill -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Flappie Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Hi. Please attach the most recent ZIP file from your Saved Games/DCS.../Logs folder. Edited January 12, 2023 by Flappie ---
Terence Hill Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 vor 2 Minuten schrieb Flappie: Hi. Please attach the most recent ZIP file from your Saved Games/DCS.../Logs folder. dcs.log its the only log i got -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Flappie Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Thank you. The error clearly comes from your VR headset. DCS is very demanding resource-wise: it asks a lot, and for some reason, your G2 gets lost. It looks like a system issue. 2023-01-12 18:42:54.026 ERROR ED_SOUND (6684): IAudioClient::GetCurrentPadding failed: 0x88890004 (AUDCLNT_E_DEVICE_INVALIDATED) 2023-01-12 18:42:54.087 ERROR ED_SOUND (11180): bufferEvent has timed out. 2023-01-12 18:42:54.088 ERROR ED_SOUND (11180): IAudioClient::GetCurrentPadding failed: 0x88890004 (AUDCLNT_E_DEVICE_INVALIDATED) 2023-01-12 18:42:54.128 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID256#{e6f07b5f-ee97-4a90-b076-33f57bf4eaa7} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.343 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID257#{e6f07b5f-ee97-4a90-b076-33f57bf4eaa7} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.480 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID258#{e6f07b5f-ee97-4a90-b076-33f57bf4eaa7} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.609 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID256#{866519b5-3f07-4c97-b7df-24c5d8a8ccb8} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.733 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID256#{10910c20-0c64-4172-9409-add3064c0cad}\color 2023-01-12 18:42:54.857 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID257#{866519b5-3f07-4c97-b7df-24c5d8a8ccb8} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.981 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID257#{10910c20-0c64-4172-9409-add3064c0cad}\color 2023-01-12 18:42:55.137 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID258#{866519b5-3f07-4c97-b7df-24c5d8a8ccb8} 2023-01-12 18:42:55.275 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID258#{10910c20-0c64-4172-9409-add3064c0cad}\color 2023-01-12 18:42:55.404 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\SWD#VirtualDisplayAdapter#VirtualDisplayDevice_0000#{1ca05180-a699-450a-9a0c-de4fbe3ddd89} 2023-01-12 18:42:55.534 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\SWD#VirtualDisplayAdapter#VirtualDisplayDevice_0000#{5b45201d-f2f2-4f3b-85bb-30ff1f953599} 2023-01-12 18:42:55.659 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.1.00000000}.{15112d71-20cc-435d-9769-05a3f76faff6}#{2eef81be-33fa-4800-9670-1cd474972c3f} 2023-01-12 18:42:55.781 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{2427e7c3-08da-47f7-ac57-85206e34194e}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2} Please attach a dxdiag log (howto). ---
Terence Hill Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 vor 2 Minuten schrieb Flappie: Thank you. The error clearly comes from your VR headset. DCS is very demanding resource-wise: it asks a lot, and for some reason, your G2 gets lost. It looks like a system issue. 2023-01-12 18:42:54.026 ERROR ED_SOUND (6684): IAudioClient::GetCurrentPadding failed: 0x88890004 (AUDCLNT_E_DEVICE_INVALIDATED) 2023-01-12 18:42:54.087 ERROR ED_SOUND (11180): bufferEvent has timed out. 2023-01-12 18:42:54.088 ERROR ED_SOUND (11180): IAudioClient::GetCurrentPadding failed: 0x88890004 (AUDCLNT_E_DEVICE_INVALIDATED) 2023-01-12 18:42:54.128 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID256#{e6f07b5f-ee97-4a90-b076-33f57bf4eaa7} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.343 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID257#{e6f07b5f-ee97-4a90-b076-33f57bf4eaa7} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.480 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID258#{e6f07b5f-ee97-4a90-b076-33f57bf4eaa7} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.609 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID256#{866519b5-3f07-4c97-b7df-24c5d8a8ccb8} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.733 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID256#{10910c20-0c64-4172-9409-add3064c0cad}\color 2023-01-12 18:42:54.857 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID257#{866519b5-3f07-4c97-b7df-24c5d8a8ccb8} 2023-01-12 18:42:54.981 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID257#{10910c20-0c64-4172-9409-add3064c0cad}\color 2023-01-12 18:42:55.137 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID258#{866519b5-3f07-4c97-b7df-24c5d8a8ccb8} 2023-01-12 18:42:55.275 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\DISPLAY#Default_Monitor#1&31ff3cbc&0&UID258#{10910c20-0c64-4172-9409-add3064c0cad}\color 2023-01-12 18:42:55.404 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\SWD#VirtualDisplayAdapter#VirtualDisplayDevice_0000#{1ca05180-a699-450a-9a0c-de4fbe3ddd89} 2023-01-12 18:42:55.534 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\SWD#VirtualDisplayAdapter#VirtualDisplayDevice_0000#{5b45201d-f2f2-4f3b-85bb-30ff1f953599} 2023-01-12 18:42:55.659 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.1.00000000}.{15112d71-20cc-435d-9769-05a3f76faff6}#{2eef81be-33fa-4800-9670-1cd474972c3f} 2023-01-12 18:42:55.781 INFO APP (Main): Device unplugged: \\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{2427e7c3-08da-47f7-ac57-85206e34194e}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2} Please attach a dxdiag log (howto). DxDiag.txt -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Flappie Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) I don't see anything wrong in it. Have you tried this already? Nevermind, the video I posted shows a weird Windows. I can't find the drivers menu it shows. Edited January 12, 2023 by Flappie 1 ---
Terence Hill Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 Gerade eben schrieb Flappie: I don't see anything wrong in it. Have you tried this already? no but ill tomorrow ,thanks for your help @Flappie ill reply what it does tomorrow ,too tired tonight ill try it tomorrow but ,my pc is new (01.12.22) and this problem is since day 1 so i wonder why this should be a driver problem , but ill give it a try -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
Flappie Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Another thing to try out: disable hotplug device detection in DCS Controls options. 1 ---
SkateZilla Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 On 12/6/2022 at 2:32 PM, Terence Hill said: i just made a benchmark with cyberpunk ,3dmark and FurMark ,all went fine ,i dont get it why my computer shut down/reboot after 30-60 minutes of DCS benchmarks only stress 1 of 2 components, DCS Stresses both CPU and GPU especially in vr, if it powers off completely, then it's likely a power issue. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Terence Hill Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) vor 3 Minuten schrieb SkateZilla: benchmarks only stress 1 of 2 components, DCS Stresses both CPU and GPU especially in vr, if it powers off completely, then it's likely a power issue. and what about playing cyberpunk in 4k with grafic mods - i played it for about 5-6 hours no crash ? not enough or is there a way to stress it more -exept of DCS ? also HL ALYX and many more ,this just happends with DCS Edited January 12, 2023 by Terence Hill -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
corn322 Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/11/2023 at 10:38 AM, Terence Hill said: ...1 week ago it crashes again and pc shutting down (with message "shutting down") or goes to silent mode... I find this very strange. My experience with computers crashing is they either lock up and you need to cycle power, or they reboot themself. 29 minutes ago, Flappie said: The error clearly comes from your VR headset. DCS is very demanding resource-wise: it asks a lot, and for some reason, your G2 gets lost. Could it be a USB power delivery issue? Any chance DCS is pulling so much power the PSU flips out the power or sleep button was pressed? 1
Terence Hill Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Look ,it dont just crash , my VR goes black , i took it off and can see on my screen "Computer shutting down" ,but it doesnt ,it just goes to sleep (all the lights and fans still running ) and i need to press the power button to TRY it to wake up again ,sometimes its shuuting down after that - do i need 1000 W instead of 850 just for this hardware? vor 9 Minuten schrieb corn322: Could it be a USB power delivery issue? this is a good point i guess - DCS is the only game where i used all my USB devices and i got about 12 Edited January 12, 2023 by Terence Hill -CPU : i7 12700 K -GPU : RTX 3080 -RAM : C18 3600 VENGEANCE -SPU: Seasonic 850 Gold -VR : HP Reverb G2 -MB: Gigabyte 690 gaming
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