Any advise on how to deal with targets obscured by trees/ spotting targets scattered around trees with the TADS

[oscar19681]

Ive been playing the Modified Georgian Hammer campaign for the Apache since some time. And one thing i noticed, and same go,s for all the other missions based on the caucusus man, is that its pretty damn hard, if not allmost impossible to hit and get to my mission targers such as tanks and apcs because 9 out of 10 times they are obscurred by trees and <profanity>. Thing is when i stalk the targets and hover and search the objective for targets with the TADS it is also 9 out of 10 times allmost impossible to spot any of the targets at all. Even when repositioning, it seems very hard to spot targets with the TADS out of the background, even when changing contrast. So how do you guys deal when facing targets obscured by trees if you dont mind me asking? Im at a loss..

Edited December 17, 2022 by oscar19681

[NeedzWD40]

Entirely situational, depending on the terrain and nature of it. If it's flat, then I try to get low and look under the trees; if it's rough and hilly, I try and come at high angles or different vectors if possible. Dense trees/urban tend to call for the M433 RC fused rockets to try and dislodge them.

[Boogdud]

Spotting is one thing, try actually doing any damage to a target that is remotely close to a tree. They're like force fields.

[sirrah]

5 hours ago, Boogdud said:

Spotting is one thing, try actually doing any damage to a target that is remotely close to a tree. They're like force fields.

As @Boogdudsays, trees are impenetrable bunkers in DCS. Make absolutely sure you have a clear LOS to your target. If not, relocate yourself until you do.

Yeah, trees definetly need some work

 

[Floyd1212]

I've noticed with the recent patch that lasing through the trunks of trees, to armor beyond, is resulting in the missile impacting short.

This T90 is out in the open beyond those trees, so the missile can definitely come down on it from above.  I tried 6 times, and 5 out of the 6 the missile came down very short, near the row of hedges directly in the foreground.  LRFD was set to LAST reflection.

I feel like I would have been able to pull this shot off previously.

[fjacobsen]

There is an option on the weapons page to set whether the laser ranging should use the first or last reflection i.e the closest or the farthes object reflection.

Maybe this also helps for designation.

[Sandman1330]

On 12/19/2022 at 1:36 AM, fjacobsen said:

There is an option on the weapons page to set whether the laser ranging should use the first or last reflection i.e the closest or the farthes object reflection.

Maybe this also helps for designation.

Does this affect the hellfire though? I thought it was just for the range finder.

[Floyd1212]

In my example with the screenshot above, where it missed 5 out of 6 times, I did have the LRFD set to LAST.

[fjacobsen]

I guess it´s only for the range finder.