New here with a few questions...

[Dangerzone]

15 hours ago, ex81 said:

Sorry for you, but I use the even older X55 for years now and never had any problem with it. So it depends on everybodys personal experience and expectation how the X56 or 55 is judged. If you can spend hundrets of $, go for whatever you want. But in your reply make it clear it`s YOUR verdict.

I'm glad you're having good success with your X55, but the X55 was never mentioned. I'm quite happy to concede & clarify that my comments aren't reflective on the X55 in any way (I have no knowledge about the 55's design. From what I've been told by others, the older stuff is better. I've heard great stuff about the X65f too). 

To be clear - I am not basing my response only on my experience alone as you have suggested however, but rather & I am encouraging the OP (and anyone else interested in considering the X56) to search the web for ghosting inputs, sticky buttons, inconsistent throttle friction, etc with the X56 and understand it's inherent design flaws and problems that frequent this particular model for numerous users before buying. While everyone can get a lemon - even with the best of reputable manufacturers and models. But I'm not and would never suggest someone takes my word alone (or the word from any other single person's experience), but rather to do research as to how common these problems are - raising their attention to real problems that exist and I'm confident if done - that they will be able to find plenty of information that this isn't an isolated issue. 

 

Edited January 6, 2023 by Dangerzone

[EmJay22]

My TrackIR finally arrived and I must say it is worth the $$$. Currently just using with the hat clip and it works great.

Gonna try to get it working with my version of IL2 ...

Now I just have to convince myself to order this WinWing Max HOTAS thing...  https://wwsimstore.com/view/goods-details.html?id=343

This is not good news from WinWing

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Edited January 17, 2023 by EmJay22

[EmJay22]

On 1/4/2023 at 4:39 PM, MadKreator said:

- I should add that trackIR is smoothest when the game is running a solid 60fps, or 120fps.. In between or below it does get slightly jumpy/ stuttery with fast movements.. a little bit but not much.. I can run dcs in the 100fps range pretty easily but I cap mine at 60 just so  track IR and Helios run the smoothest they can. The ps3-eye versions of head tracking would be smoothest at 45fps and 90fps in game( 90 hz camera), I would assume.

 

I just tried to start up Fraps99 (which hasn't been updated in years?) on Win10 and Windows won't let it run due to some security threat.

Is there something newer for tracking fps that is recommended for this? Or some trick to get Fraps to run. The solutions I found for getting it to run under Win10 don't seem to want to work. 

Or maybe I should not worry about it but thought it might be helpful when deciding if a new graphics card might be helpful. 

Currently running an ASRock Radeon RX 5500 XT (8 GB DDR6) which seems to be doing okay, but I haven't tried turning up the graphics settings in game yet. Also running 32 GB DDR4 RAM on Ryzen 5 2600 6 core 3.4GHZ

[EmJay22]

The Radeon software has utility that will show fps and 42 sucks....  

27" 1440p monitor...

 

 

[Schmafuzius]

do you need more info than from the built in fps function?

there is an advanced mode when you select LCTRL+Pause/Break a second time...

[EmJay22]

3 hours ago, Schmafuzius said:

do you need more info than from the built in fps function?

there is an advanced mode when you select LCTRL+Pause/Break a second time...

Thanks... I appreciate that info.

I will give that a try.

Trying to determine what new graphics card would give a decent frame rate improvement without costing a lot over $500 or so. At least prices have come back down

 

[MadKreator]

On 1/25/2023 at 2:05 AM, EmJay22 said:

I just tried to start up Fraps99 (which hasn't been updated in years?) on Win10 and Windows won't let it run due to some security threat.

Is there something newer for tracking fps that is recommended for this? Or some trick to get Fraps to run. The solutions I found for getting it to run under Win10 don't seem to want to work. 

Or maybe I should not worry about it but thought it might be helpful when deciding if a new graphics card might be helpful. 

Currently running an ASRock Radeon RX 5500 XT (8 GB DDR6) which seems to be doing okay, but I haven't tried turning up the graphics settings in game yet. Also running 32 GB DDR4 RAM on Ryzen 5 2600 6 core 3.4GHZ

Fps counter is good to at least tune and tweak your settings.  Some fps killers are ssaa, ssao , sslr, civ traffic, global cockpit illumination, wake turbulence, shadows of course( i set at medium). Anisotropic filtering can as well, and of course msaa x4 can hit pretty hard over msaa x2. Grass/ clutter I turn all the way down, forest distance can ding you too (going down to like .8 can bump a few fps). Kinda have to just tweak and try things till you scan get fps you want. I find anything under about 50 starts feeling jumpy and annoying especially with trackIR. See if you can manage a combo to hit around 60 in free flight with track ir running. Heavy missions in dcs  will bring almost any pc to its knees due to the bottlenecks. In track ir I set my smoothing way up almost maxed out and speed to .9. Lots of messing around to do. My pc can easily run dcs on almost every thing maxed and turned on @ 100+ fps in free flight ( not the point) So capped at 60 I have plenty of overhead to work with, but I was on a server the other day on Syria and it was getting a whipping 36-40 fps, just to tell you how bottlenecked dcs gets in missions due to the single core cpu limitations. DCS is a tough game to judge whether its your cpu or gpu holding you back. Hopefully in the near future when Multithreading is implemented it will be a little easier to tell. 

Edit—- I set trackIR speed at .5 and smoothing to 40

Edited January 26, 2023 by MadKreator

[EmJay22]

On 1/5/2023 at 12:31 PM, MadKreator said:

Personally I’d go with the WW hotas Max package with the f-18 throttle. Just because those couple extra hats/ buttons on the stick will definitely come in handy.. especially if you get into flying the a-10lol I use a vkb gunfighter ultimate and I’m very very happy that it has the few extra controls like the hotas max.. I have the Orion 1 f-18 throttle and I do really like it, never felt the need to change it out for something different.

I will say that the WW simapp pro software is junk IMO. Use it to update and calibrate things and set switches /levers how you like and the lighting level of the throttle, then never turn it on again unless you havre to lol Also go into the dcs export.lua after you install it and delete the two lines of code it writes in there. It messed with mine, and many others, game performance. You wont get stick vibrations or the a/a, a/g light turning on and off but the wonky performance hit isn’t worth it… for me and in my experience anyway.

 

Sorry to keep beating a dead horse but I'm getting ready to order new HOTAS from WinWing and am confused about these two packages at the top of the page.. mainly not understanding what the "finger lift" thing is...

https://wwsimstore.com/view/shopping.html

[CBStu]

Finger lift is the levers that you would lift to go to either ground idle or afterburner. See the right hand picture. I am not sure how Winwig does theirs but Warthog has you pull up on the throttle levers and then the levers will move further. There is also a mod which makes it feel like a detent that you just push a little harder to go through to get to afterburner. BTW I use TrackIR and I find I like the metal clip better than the electronic thing. I just wear an old baseball cap w/ the clip on the visor and head phone over the hat. My headphone is bluetooth and the electronic sensor needed a wire which was a pain. BTW2, I find that I use the rudder very infrequently in the FA-18. I was glad to realize that because it saved the $ and the hassle of another piece of equipment. My stick twists for rudder and that is more than adequate.

[MadKreator]

@EmJay22

The Orion 2 throttle doesn’t have the regular detents to tell you where afterburner starts or where your min power is/ engine cutoff. So the finger lift kit is the detents, at the safterburner point you can push the throttle through to after burner but it wont let you accidentally kill your engines unless you pull up on the finger lifts. I have the Orion 1, before they csame out with the finger lift kit and mine has standard detents( just a spring and a ball ) to give it a little extra pressure at idle/ cutoff and afterburner positions.. just be aware that the Orion 2 does not have those detents installed, from my understanding, so if you order the non-finger lift version, the throttle will be smooth from start to finish, no indication of afterburner or throttle cutoff positions. Which is stupid in my opinion. The non-finger lift version should come with standard detents but from what people say, it doesn’t.

Finger lift is just more realistic, like a real jet. 

The stick itself has an extra attachment on the top left with an extra 4 way hat, an analog stick with press  and another lever in front of the trigger. It also I has a vibration motor in it, like an xbox or PlayStation controller, for some haptic feedback( need to shave the simapp-pro software running to use<— WinWings setup/ calibration software). You could add the twist kit too if you don’t have rudder pedals. Fine for a jet but prob not great for helis since you constantly hold/ work the yaw axis.

 

Not beating a dead horse, ask anything you like, its a good chunk of money you’re going to throw down. Better to be as informed as possible rather than be surprised with something you don’t expect. Out of the two, If I were buying one right now I would spend the extra for the hotas max, not necessarily for the lifts, but for the extra buttons/ hats on the stick. Now the vibration/ shaker thing might be cool, but I find the winwing software to kind of make fps buggy in the game so I don’t run it, and I delete the line of code it installs into the export.lua file. 

Edited January 26, 2023 by MadKreator

[EmJay22]

1 hour ago, CBStu said:

Finger lift is the levers that you would lift to go to either ground idle or afterburner. See the right hand picture. I am not sure how Winwig does theirs but Warthog has you pull up on the throttle levers and then the levers will move further. There is also a mod which makes it feel like a detent that you just push a little harder to go through to get to afterburner. BTW I use TrackIR and I find I like the metal clip better than the electronic thing. I just wear an old baseball cap w/ the clip on the visor and head phone over the hat. My headphone is bluetooth and the electronic sensor needed a wire which was a pain. BTW2, I find that I use the rudder very infrequently in the FA-18. I was glad to realize that because it saved the $ and the hassle of another piece of equipment. My stick twists for rudder and that is more than adequate.

So far I am only using the hat clip on a visor and it seems to work fine. 

I need to somehow tweak the settings so that I don't have to look down so much to see all the cockpit. I was gonna try to also use the hat on the stick to also look down though don't know if that will work. Working thru some of the tutorials I still find myself wondering "where" when they point out a switch to change the HUD brightness or something since often the yellow "box thing" covers up the actual label.

38 minutes ago, MadKreator said:

@EmJay22

The Orion 2 throttle doesn’t have the regular detents to tell you where afterburner starts or where your min power is/ engine cutoff. So the finger lift kit is the detents, at the safterburner point you can push the throttle through to after burner but it wont let you accidentally kill your engines unless you pull up on the finger lifts. I have the Orion 1, before they csame out with the finger lift kit and mine has standard detents( just a spring and a ball ) to give it a little extra pressure at idle/ cutoff and afterburner positions.. just be aware that the Orion 2 does not have those detents installed, from my understanding, so if you order the non-finger lift version, the throttle will be smooth from start to finish, no indication of afterburner or throttle cutoff positions. Which is stupid in my opinion. The non-finger lift version should come with standard detents but from what people say, it doesn’t.

Finger lift is just more realistic, like a real jet. 

Not beating a dead horse, ask anything you like, its a good chunk of money you’re going to throw down. Better to be as informed as possible rather than be surprised with something you don’t expect. Out of the two, If I were buying one right now I would spend the extra for the hotas max, not necessarily for the lifts, but for the extra buttons/ hats on the stick. Now the vibration/ shaker thing might be cool, but I find the winwing software to kind of make fps buggy in the game so I don’t run it, and I delete the line of code it installs into the export.lua file. 

 

Thanks for both the detailed explanations... and here I thought that the "finger lift" was for visually signalling enemy pilots!!

Right now my current setup involves moving my keyboard from the slide out tray it is on up to the desktop, then placing my X45 throttle and stick onto the keyboard tray, which I think I might need to try to lower somehow another inch. The mouse/mouse pad stays on the keyboard tray.

I may need to get more creative with the new HOTAS equipment.

[MadKreator]

12 minutes ago, EmJay22 said:

So far I am only using the hat clip on a visor and it seems to work fine. 

I need to somehow tweak the settings so that I don't have to look down so much to see all the cockpit. I was gonna try to also use the hat on the stick to also look down though don't know if that will work. Working thru some of the tutorials I still find myself wondering "where" when they point out a switch to change the HUD brightness or something since often the yellow "box thing" covers up the actual label.

Thanks for both the detailed explanations... and here I thought that the "finger lift" was for visually signalling enemy pilots!!

Right now my current setup involves moving my keyboard from the slide out tray it is on up to the desktop, then placing my X45 throttle and stick onto the keyboard tray, which I think I might need to try to lower somehow another inch. The mouse/mouse pad stays on the keyboard tray.

I may need to get more creative with the new HOTAS equipment.

TrackIR takes a bit to tune and tweak all of the curves for each axis. Basically on each axis curve (need to adjust all 6), the steeper the “v-shape” the faster the tracking will move, the higher up the v-shape/ curve goes on the graph determines the max distance it will travel. There is also a couple arrow keys on there to bump the entire curve up and down at once, instead of fiddling with individual points. I can post some of my settings if you would like,  granted I’m using a 49” 5120x1440 monitor thats only about 18” in front of me so my left/right axis is fairly dull, since I have to move my head a lot to see the ends of the screen anyway..I’m not sure of I can share the actual setup file..

If you look up “Spudknocker trackIR” he has a pretty good video rundown, once you figure out what the program is expecting, its actually pretty simple.

As for the button/ switches in the cockpit, that just takes time, the training missions in the game give a decent basic run-down, but dcs takes a long time to learn a module. The f-18 literally took me months to become decently proficient at when I first started. Gotta play the long game with DCS or it will just be frustrating lol 

Edited January 26, 2023 by MadKreator

[EmJay22]

19 hours ago, MadKreator said:

TrackIR takes a bit to tune and tweak all of the curves for each axis. Basically on each axis curve (need to adjust all 6), the steeper the “v-shape” the faster the tracking will move, the higher up the v-shape/ curve goes on the graph determines the max distance it will travel. There is also a couple arrow keys on there to bump the entire curve up and down at once, instead of fiddling with individual points. I can post some of my settings if you would like,  granted I’m using a 49” 5120x1440 monitor thats only about 18” in front of me so my left/right axis is fairly dull, since I have to move my head a lot to see the ends of the screen anyway..I’m not sure of I can share the actual setup file..

If you look up “Spudknocker trackIR” he has a pretty good video rundown, once you figure out what the program is expecting, its actually pretty simple.

As for the button/ switches in the cockpit, that just takes time, the training missions in the game give a decent basic run-down, but dcs takes a long time to learn a module. The f-18 literally took me months to become decently proficient at when I first started. Gotta play the long game with DCS or it will just be frustrating lol 

 

I found the "Speed" setting in Track IR that does what I want so I'll just experiment with that. 

Right now I'm just gonna work my way through the online PDF manual, without using track IR, in a cold and dark Hornet to find all the crontrols 

Edited January 27, 2023 by EmJay22

[EmJay22]

Hello,

Since I have another controller question, I thought I'd just drop it in here rather than start a new thread.

I have been working my way thru the DCS F-18 manual and the training missions.  And finding both the manual the training missions somewhat lacking sometimes.  I see  that the Chuck's guides and tutorials are clearly far more in depth, including have detailed recommendations for HOTAS control mapping.

I am guessing that the HOTAS mapping recommendations are based on using Thrustmaster HOTAS Warhog setup? Maybe with an F-18 grip for the F-18 guide?

 

[Xthedarkknight99x]

2 hours ago, EmJay22 said:

Hello,

Since I have another controller question, I thought I'd just drop it in here rather than start a new thread.

I have been working my way thru the DCS F-18 manual and the training missions.  And finding both the manual the training missions somewhat lacking sometimes.  I see  that the Chuck's guides and tutorials are clearly far more in depth, including have detailed recommendations for HOTAS control mapping.

I am guessing that the HOTAS mapping recommendations are based on using Thrustmaster HOTAS Warhog setup? Maybe with an F-18 grip for the F-18 guide?

 

Yes that's correct but you can usually line up his mappings to most mid range and higher gear. I use his mappings on my winwing stuff.  I've gone from  X56 to vkb to winwing.   I used the x56 throttle and vkb stick before getting winwing throttle and vkb. 

[EmJay22]

I know that Thrustmaster isn't considered to be as high end as wingwing, vkb, etc... but wonder about their long term future support for stuff like drivers.

[MadKreator]

On 2/6/2023 at 5:38 AM, EmJay22 said:

Hello,

Since I have another controller question, I thought I'd just drop it in here rather than start a new thread.

I have been working my way thru the DCS F-18 manual and the training missions.  And finding both the manual the training missions somewhat lacking sometimes.  I see  that the Chuck's guides and tutorials are clearly far more in depth, including have detailed recommendations for HOTAS control mapping.

I am guessing that the HOTAS mapping recommendations are based on using Thrustmaster HOTAS Warhog setup? Maybe with an F-18 grip for the F-18 guide?

 

Most likely, but I will say, unless you have that exact stick, I wouldn’t worry too much about how the exact aircraft hotas is.. Use it for a starting point and as you progress your knowledge and find the things that are most important for you to have on there, don’t be afraid to change them up. I have a vkb stick that is not a replica of anything, just a stick with lots of buttons, so I try to have the same round-about functions in the same locations for each aircraft, just so its a bit more natural. It can take a longtime during the learning process to figure out what things are most important to access quickly. For the hornet, radar cursor/tdc, TGP controls( fov and zoom) , weapon firing, cage/uncage, trim, countermeasures, a/a weapon select, nws/undesignate,  radar elevation are some of the most important  functions imo. Gear, flaps, master arm, a/a, a/g mode, general controls  are better left off. Speed brake is one that is common on hotas setups for adjusting speed quicker, but it something you could leave to a keybind to make room for more important things especially when starting out. When you become a more aggressive dog fighter, you may find the speed brake to be something you want to have quickly available. There’s tons of you tube videos on the hornet, the training missions are very lacking on most aircraft. They’ll give a quick rundown but there’s much more to learn about each system. Your first  module in dcs is a long process. Full of fumbling, and cussing frustration and button mashing lol Once you get it down though its a great feeling! And most of the concepts apply to other aircraft. Your second, third, fourth module will be much easier to get the hang of( aside from your brain learning new controls). You can always make one button ( or more) on your hotas a modifier( like holding shift, ctrl, alt) so you can have many more functions. Setup all your controls for main weapons deployment and target searching, use a modifier with each for other aircraft functions as you see fit. Maybe your trim hat switch can be modified to also be your missile select hat too. Or your nws/ undesignate, can double as cage/uncage for mavericks etc etc 

[EmJay22]

19 hours ago, MadKreator said:

Most likely, but I will say, unless you have that exact stick, I wouldn’t worry too much about how the exact aircraft hotas is.. Use it for a starting point and as you progress your knowledge and find the things that are most important for you to have on there, don’t be afraid to change them up. I have a vkb stick that is not a replica of anything, just a stick with lots of buttons, so I try to have the same round-about functions in the same locations for each aircraft, just so its a bit more natural. It can take a longtime during the learning process to figure out what things are most important to access quickly. For the hornet, radar cursor/tdc, TGP controls( fov and zoom) , weapon firing, cage/uncage, trim, countermeasures, a/a weapon select, nws/undesignate,  radar elevation are some of the most important  functions imo. Gear, flaps, master arm, a/a, a/g mode, general controls  are better left off. Speed brake is one that is common on hotas setups for adjusting speed quicker, but it something you could leave to a keybind to make room for more important things especially when starting out. When you become a more aggressive dog fighter, you may find the speed brake to be something you want to have quickly available. There’s tons of you tube videos on the hornet, the training missions are very lacking on most aircraft. They’ll give a quick rundown but there’s much more to learn about each system. Your first  module in dcs is a long process. Full of fumbling, and cussing frustration and button mashing lol Once you get it down though its a great feeling! And most of the concepts apply to other aircraft. Your second, third, fourth module will be much easier to get the hang of( aside from your brain learning new controls). You can always make one button ( or more) on your hotas a modifier( like holding shift, ctrl, alt) so you can have many more functions. Setup all your controls for main weapons deployment and target searching, use a modifier with each for other aircraft functions as you see fit. Maybe your trim hat switch can be modified to also be your missile select hat too. Or your nws/ undesignate, can double as cage/uncage for mavericks etc etc 

Yup.. this is all pretty overwhelming right now. LOL. I did order the WinWing HOTAS set up.. over $100 for shipping? 

I have a hard time learning from videos and they don't help a lot if you can't even see the controls in the cockpit. I use reading glasses and with TrackIr it can still be hard to see everything clearly. So I have been resorting to removing the hat & clip and just looking down using the mouse I have a programmable mouse so I can switch easily from "looking" with the mouse to "clicking" with the mouse. However I have also been using the hat on my X45.  I had a devil of a  time determining how to change the trim as the "manual" is vague and videos.. are well videos, where sometimes they just go too fast. And just missing one piece of that instructions set me back an hour to finally understand how to change that. This was actually for setting the aircraft launch wt for a cat shot. \

But at least the Chuck's guides give a better explanation of what should be mapped unlike the DCS Manuals. 

Thank you so much for your valuable input. 

So, if you use * to zoom, is there a key that returns to the "default" view? The "." (DEL) on the keyboard zooms in waaay to close. 

I can't stand the DCS tutorial on landing just listening to stuff I have heard over and over so would rather just take off, fly off a bit, turn around and come back. Zooming helps to line up the correct airfield.

[MadKreator]

1 hour ago, EmJay22 said:

Yup.. this is all pretty overwhelming right now. LOL. I did order the WinWing HOTAS set up.. over $100 for shipping? 

I have a hard time learning from videos and they don't help a lot if you can't even see the controls in the cockpit. I use reading glasses and with TrackIr it can still be hard to see everything clearly. So I have been resorting to removing the hat & clip and just looking down using the mouse I have a programmable mouse so I can switch easily from "looking" with the mouse to "clicking" with the mouse. However I have also been using the hat on my X45.  I had a devil of a  time determining how to change the trim as the "manual" is vague and videos.. are well videos, where sometimes they just go too fast. And just missing one piece of that instructions set me back an hour to finally understand how to change that. This was actually for setting the aircraft launch wt for a cat shot. \

But at least the Chuck's guides give a better explanation of what should be mapped unlike the DCS Manuals. 

Thank you so much for your valuable input. 

So, if you use * to zoom, is there a key that returns to the "default" view? The "." (DEL) on the keyboard zooms in waaay to close. 

I can't stand the DCS tutorial on landing just listening to stuff I have heard over and over so would rather just take off, fly off a bit, turn around and come back. Zooming helps to line up the correct airfield.

Number 5 on the number pad goes back to default view.. when you get the winwing setup, I highly recommend using two buttons or two directions on a hat and map them to “ view zoom in slow” and “view zoom out slow”  didn’t know if you noticed in the controls setup there is a whole section named “hotas” thats basically a grouped list of everything that should/ would be good to, go on the stick and throttle… some things you don’t necessarily need( like MIDS 1 and 2). You still have to go through the pain of what really needs mapped but that section shows you about evening that should be in quick reach.. I will post you a screenshot of my hotas section if you want , just to give you an idea. Shipping is outrageous, I was going to order a new radio control plane the other day, until I got to shipping and it wad $190 plus a $60 “container offset fee”… for a balsa wood/ carbon fiber airframe that was USA domestic rate from GA to ID lol 

 

Once you get the controls mapped, click on each section, stick, throttle,keyboard, etc and save profile for each.. it wont save the entire profile, only each column individually, so name them accordingly just in case it gets wiped out

Edited February 10, 2023 by MadKreator

[EmJay22]

45 minutes ago, MadKreator said:

Number 5 on the number pad goes back to default view.. when you get the winwing setup, I highly recommend using two buttons or two directions on a hat and map them to “ view zoom in slow” and “view zoom out slow”  didn’t know if you noticed in the controls setup there is a whole section named “hotas” thats basically a grouped list of everything that should/ would be good to, go on the stick and throttle… some things you don’t necessarily need( like MIDS 1 and 2). You still have to go through the pain of what really needs mapped but that section shows you about evening that should be in quick reach.. I will post you a screenshot of my hotas section if you want , just to give you an idea. Shipping is outrageous, I was going to order a new radio control plane the other day, until I got to shipping and it wad $190 plus a $60 “container offset fee”… for a balsa wood/ carbon fiber airframe that was USA domestic rate from GA to ID lol 

 

Once you get the controls mapped, click on each section, stick, throttle,keyboard, etc and save profile for each.. it wont save the entire profile, only each column individually, so name them accordingly just in case it gets wiped out

 

I just tested it and Num5 only centers the view. Does not change the zoom. the KeypadEnter says "NormalZoom" in the controls .. but is still zoomed in a lot farther than the default zoom when you start so I must have something wrong. I do have a button mapped for F10 for TrackIr to center and return to a somewhat normal zoom. 

[MadKreator]

19 minutes ago, EmJay22 said:

I just tested it and Num5 only centers the view. Does not change the zoom. the KeypadEnter says "NormalZoom" in the controls .. but is still zoomed in a lot farther than the default zoom when you start so I must have something wrong. I do have a button mapped for F10 for TrackIr to center and return to a somewhat normal zoom. 

Snap views and and view saving in general,  don’t save the zoom level ever. Just re-centers. The reason I recommend the view zoom in/out slow on the hotas when you get it you can edit one of the game files to change the default fov(which gets overwritten each update) , but as of now there isn’t another way to save the default FOV where you want it unfortunately. 

[EmJay22]

My Winwin Orion 2 F/A-18 HOTAS arrived today. The quality of the equipment appears to be excellent.

The same is not true for the installation instructions regarding attaching the throttle handles... 

I did find the instructions for the Orion base.. LOL

Edited February 14, 2023 by EmJay22

[SharpeXB]

On 2/10/2023 at 9:22 AM, EmJay22 said:

the KeypadEnter says "NormalZoom" in the controls .. but is still zoomed in a lot farther than the default zoom when you start so I must have something wrong

To save the zoom level you prefer for “normal zoom”. First when in the aircraft cockpit view hit esc and bring up the setting screen and there is a slider for FOV. Set this for the angle you like. Then back in the cockpit press Alt+Num0 “save cockpit view angles”. Make sure you have the box for snap view saving checked in the options. Now Zoom Normal should return you to this. 

On 1/27/2023 at 5:31 AM, EmJay22 said:

I found the "Speed" setting in Track IR that does what I want so I'll just experiment with that. 

Using TrackIR in almost every game including DCS I have only found it necessary to select the “smooth” preset in the software. That always seems to work just fine for sensitivity. You should be easily able to see that whole cockpit. I think when you first install it the default is the 1:1 preset which is too limited. 

Edited February 16, 2023 by SharpeXB

[EmJay22]

Been using my Orion 2 throttle and stick for a couple of weeks now without issues.

Today after attaching some new mounts which work great and have helped my landing skills a lot, I actually returned to the parking place I started from in the Caucus map. So for the first time I tried to reduce engines to OFF using the finger lifts and decided to take a break.

I am not sure what I did, but when I came back and tried a hotstart on Marianas, which is ready for catshot on the Supercarrier, I noticed the right engine not actually running? Nor was the "voice" speaking at the beginning of the mission.

Tried to reboot the PC, restart the game, calibrate the Rx and Ry axis in the SimAppPro software and even did a firmware upgrade to no avail. 

I did also notice the screw for the rear detente had come completely loose so put that back together. 

I am really hoping that I don't need to send this thing back to China... But the game not hearing that "trainer" talking is strange.. annoying as he can be!

[NIGHTHAWK1]

one note - if you do a hot start with the winwing throttle all the way off, ie, finger lifts up and thottle to idle, the jet powers done at start up.  Just be sure the throttle is past idle and the finger lifts are down. Just a note is i fly the f-18.   Another thing about the winwing throttle is if you have a toggle set for an action the game reads the toggle postion and may set the ac in that mod at start up.  Example:  i changed the flaps toggle to "active pause" and "pause" ,  got stumped a few times and could not get the jet to move because it was still reading "active pause" and so the ship would not move.

Edited February 27, 2023 by NIGHTHAWK1
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