Emergency Wing Sweep can only be mouse wheel/click dragged back from 68 degrees to EWS? (keybinds don't push it back)

[Chaos_Out]

I fly VR and don't like using a mouse or keyboard if I don't have to so I use Voice Attack.  I don't even have a keyboard by me when flying it's that good now.  I'm trying to automate some things with Voice Attack, and sweeping the wings back to emergency wing sweep after a carrier landing is currently on my to do list.  The issue I've found is that, no matter what I do, the keybind "Emergency Wing Sweep Handle move Aft" just shakes in the 68 degree position (Yes, I waited for the bags to deflate, tail auth warning to go out, flaps up, cover open, handle up, etc etc.).  Even using the mouse wheel takes a couple of spins before it finally pushes over.  Clicking it with the mouse and using a "forceful" drag has been the main way to get it over into emergency wing sweep.

Is there a reason it functions this way?  Is there any way to get a keybind to work and not have to manually mouse it into emergency wing sweep every time?

Thanks for the help.

[Dannyvandelft]

I fly VR and don't like using a mouse or keyboard if I don't have to so I use Voice Attack.  I don't even have a keyboard by me when flying it's that good now.  I'm trying to automate some things with Voice Attack, and sweeping the wings back to emergency wing sweep after a carrier landing is currently on my to do list.  The issue I've found is that, no matter what I do, the keybind "Emergency Wing Sweep Handle move Aft" just shakes in the 68 degree position (Yes, I waited for the bags to deflate, tail auth warning to go out, flaps up, cover open, handle up, etc etc.).  Even using the mouse wheel takes a couple of spins before it finally pushes over.  Clicking it with the mouse and using a "forceful" drag has been the main way to get it over into emergency wing sweep.
Is there a reason it functions this way?  Is there any way to get a keybind to work and not have to manually mouse it into emergency wing sweep every time?
Thanks for the help.

I use a slider in axis. Works perfectly.

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[draconus]

13 hours ago, Chaos_Out said:

The issue I've found is that, no matter what I do, the keybind "Emergency Wing Sweep Handle move Aft" just shakes in the 68 degree position

I had no problem going back to oversweep with this keybind but it got stuck in full forward (22) position - and it was impossible to move back by keybind alone.

[Chaos_Out]

7 hours ago, draconus said:

I had no problem going back to oversweep with this keybind but it got stuck in full forward (22) position - and it was impossible to move back by keybind alone.

Yea, this happened to me too.  I forgot about this part, when I had mentioned no matter what I do, this was one of those things I tried.  It always got stuck.  There's some imaginary resistance/hump that it has to be forcefully dragged over to be able to move freely.  For example, like the guy above said

9 hours ago, Dannyvandelft said:

I use a slider in axis. Works perfectly.

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I bound my TMWH side slider to the wing sweep handle, and found that if I use it right when I land and forcefully move it over that "hump", the voice attack "macro" will be able to finish with the wing sweep and put it into EWS.  The other thing I tried was using wing sweep aft (the one that is grouped with Auto/Manual/Bomb mode) to 68 degrees, and that was how the handle ended up stuck at 68 degrees.  If there is no manual action to break that resistance, no keybind will work.

With this post, I was hoping someone could explain why that resistance hump exists or maybe point it out to someone at Heatblur that this could be a bug.  Does anyone know how well they monitor these posts, like say how Nineline or Bignewy does?

Edited January 31, 2023 by Chaos_Out

[Despayre]

3 hours ago, Chaos_Out said:

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With this post, I was hoping someone could explain why that resistance hump exists or maybe point it out to someone at Heatblur that this could be a bug.  Does anyone know how well they monitor these posts, like say how Nineline or Bignewy does?

 

Iron Mike is very active in these forums, I'm sure he'll be along at some point to comment if he has something to add to this, at the very least, to suggest someone file a decent bug report in the appropriate section if needed.

[LASooner]

If I'm not mistaken the kevlar bags have to deflate before you can fully sweep the wings, you have to hold the lever up and all the way back until the oversweep light illuminates

As for the issue with the wings stuck forward was this after a flight? did you overspeed the flaps maybe?


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[draconus]

12 minutes ago, LASooner said:

If I'm not mistaken the kevlar bags have to deflate before you can fully sweep the wings, you have to hold the lever up and all the way back until the oversweep light illuminates
As for the issue with the wings stuck forward was this after a flight? did you overspeed the flaps maybe?

Did you even read the OP:

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(Yes, I waited for the bags to deflate, tail auth warning to go out, flaps up, cover open, handle up, etc etc.)

and how does it matter anyway when you can move the lever by other means (ex. mouse) and not by a keybind?

[TAIPAN_]

I can confirm I have the same issue as the OP. Not using voice attack but using a spare hat switch.

The keybinds / joystick button binds aren't able to move the emergency wing sweep fully even when the cover is open and the lever is popped up.

In the same state, the mouse is able to move it as much as needed. Danny mentioned that an axis also works (though not all of us have enough free axis).

Something is wrong with the button/key binds that don't allow them to work the same way as the mouse does.

[bonesvf103]

I just noticed this this morning.  I used a slider on my HOTAS to bring the wings back to 68 deg as I usually do.  Then I opened the cover, popped up the handle, and let the bags deflate.  Then when I pulled the wingsweep lever back with my mouse, it would just shake there.  It never made it past the spider detent hump thingy.

See at 01:29:57 it is stuck:

 

 

Now, the thing was, this is the first time I flew the F-14A in a while.  I had flown the F-14B just before that mission and the lever worked fine there, went into oversweep right after the bags deflated.  So maybe it's only an F-14A issue?

At 01:18:45 you can see it works:

 

 

v6,

boNes

Edited February 14, 2023 by bonesvf103