Dannyvandelft Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Excuse me if it's been answered before, I haven't seen it. Will we get the Classic and upgraded E immediately at launch? Or one first, then the other like the F-14 B and A? And if anyone could explain the differences between the 2 E's, I'd appreciate it. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechnology Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dannyvandelft said: Excuse me if it's been answered before, I haven't seen it. Will we get the Classic and upgraded E immediately at launch? Or one first, then the other like the F-14 B and A? And if anyone could explain the differences between the 2 E's, I'd appreciate it. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk We're getting the Early E first, then getting the late E later, so like the F14 B then A release plan. Key differences is the later E is getting early digitization efforts and the DMAS systems, which I don't know personally all the details off the top of my head, but essentially expands ground attack capabilities. Pretty sure it adds CCIP for one but I'm not 100% certain off the top of my head. Scrolling back through old threads. DMAS bird will get access to the PAVE TACK TPOD for one. Will edit this message with other bits I've found. Check that out and it should give you some good answers. Edited February 1, 2023 by Czechnology 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceCriminal86 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 And to be clear, there will not be an "early" Vietnam E like those that started showing up in 66-67. "Early" in this case is still effectively post-war, but are those "early" serial jets (66- to ~70-) after they received the mentioned modifications. So don't expect to see the original short gun muzzle, hard-wings, missing/terrible APS-107 RHAW, etc. Like with the F-14A, "early" is a relative term and doesn't include those original F-14As with the IRST from Block 70 that deployed during Frequent Wind in '74. 4 Heatblur Rivet Counting Squad™ VF-11 and VF-31 1988 [WIP] VF-201 & VF-202 [WIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303_Kermit Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, LanceCriminal86 said: And to be clear, there will not be an "early" Vietnam E like those that started showing up in 66-67. "Early" in this case is still effectively post-war, but are those "early" serial jets (66- to ~70-) after they received the mentioned modifications. So don't expect to see the original short gun muzzle, hard-wings, missing/terrible APS-107 RHAW, etc. Like with the F-14A, "early" is a relative term and doesn't include those original F-14As with the IRST from Block 70 that deployed during Frequent Wind in '74. God I love Phantom community PS. As far as I recall the most intensive upgrade in "Echo" came to engines. Reducing smoke, adding thrust etc... Edited February 1, 2023 by 303_Kermit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_441 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 1:42 AM, Czechnology said: We're getting the Early E first, then getting the late E later, so like the F14 B then A release plan. Key differences is the later E is getting early digitization efforts and the DMAS systems, which I don't know personally all the details off the top of my head, but essentially expands ground attack capabilities. Pretty sure it adds CCIP for one but I'm not 100% certain off the top of my head. Scrolling back through old threads. DMAS bird will get access to the PAVE TACK TPOD for one. Will edit this message with other bits I've found. Interesting. So assuming that CCIP is included with DMAS, would this mean a HUD or just an upgraded gun site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechnology Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 59 minutes ago, Slick_441 said: Interesting. So assuming that CCIP is included with DMAS, would this mean a HUD or just an upgraded gun site? Pretty sure its got the same gun sight, but I could very easily be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 22 hours ago, Czechnology said: Pretty sure its got the same gun sight, but I could very easily be wrong. Correct! 3 Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinlein Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 En 2/2/2023 a las 21:37, Slick_441 dijo: So assuming that CCIP is included with DMAS, would this mean a HUD or just an upgraded gun site? From what I have gathered the sight is the same but the aiming is kind of similar to what we see on the A-4 skyhawk mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNelson Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Heinlein said: From what I have gathered the sight is the same but the aiming is kind of similar to what we see on the A-4 skyhawk mod. Dive toss in the F-4E is similar to the CP-741 computer in the A-4, however the DMAS upgrade actually added CCIP to the Phantom. Where the dive toss is more like a CCRP mode. 5 3 Community A-4E-C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius_11804 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Hi there, just for my wellbeing. We will be getting the right RADAR-Scope/Gunsight Unit, and not that really "early" (I suppose F-4B/C) version with the scaledrum on the left, like the War Thunder Version got. Right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalasnkova74 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Mobius_11804 said: Hi there, just for my wellbeing. We will be getting the right RADAR-Scope/Gunsight Unit, and not that really "early" (I suppose F-4B/C) version with the scaledrum on the left, like the War Thunder Version got. Right?! Yeah, don’t use “Brand X” as a guideline. They basically copy/pasted that early Phantom cockpit into every F-4 variant, including the Japanese & British ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunaticfringe Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 The gunsight installed in the F-4E and will be modeled in the module is the ASG-26A LCOSS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie_Mantis Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) On 2/14/2023 at 9:17 AM, Mobius_11804 said: Hi there, just for my wellbeing. We will be getting the right RADAR-Scope/Gunsight Unit, and not that really "early" (I suppose F-4B/C) version with the scaledrum on the left, like the War Thunder Version got. Right?! The F-4E in that game isn't even an F-4E. It's lacking god knows how much performance and the cockpit is a copypaste from the F-4C. The F-4E had a different cockpit and gunsight entirely from the C, not to mention performing far better than in that game. Edited March 27, 2023 by Aussie_Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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