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Even if they did decide to make it don't expect to see it any time soon. We still haven't gotten the J-35 and the A-6 and KA-6.

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7 hours ago, Omega417 said:

Just as a general question, I know the Navy had "Red Crown" as its PIRAZ call sign. Did the USAF have something similar?

Ethan. (Vague memory - the number afterward denoted which area it operated)

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Probably going to need an E-2B or C.  I still don't understand the decision to model an E-2D with the modules that presently exist, and that needs to be corrected for the Tomcat, the naval Phantom, the Intruder and the Corsair.

 

(Also a KA-3D would be nice).

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On 3/1/2023 at 8:51 PM, G.J.S said:

Ethan. (Vague memory - the number afterward denoted which area it operated)

Warning Star Callsigns: I was about to reply that I read somewhere that it was "Disco" - but (Wiki is my friend!) G.J.S. is right, it was "Ethan" for Rolling Thunder, with "Disco" introduced for the Linebacker campaign. I think they also had airborne C-130's acting as the ABCCC (airborne Command & Control)  and many of the other stuff that we see today in complex Air Campaigns first introduced in the Vietnam War. A lot of the Navy's CROWN doctrine started as a solution to countering the kamikaze attacks at the end of WWII, and has been refined ever since. Flying the DCS F-15/16 & 18 with IFF nearly always correct (well in some multiplayer games I would question some players ability to read that correctly!), where as back in the 1960s the "game"(?) was much harder and proved to be a real challenge. 

It'll be interesting to see how IFF is modelled in DCS with the F-4. Either a lot of "declare" calls to the AI E-2/3 AWACs or a "jester" that is vaguely competent....... 

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Yanks Air Museum opens up their E-121 Connie quite a bit, including tours by the EWO's that served upon them during Vietnam.   I'll try to ask them if they recall particulars like above. 

 

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On 3/7/2023 at 3:13 AM, F1GHTS-ON said:

Warning Star Callsigns: I was about to reply that I read somewhere that it was "Disco" - but (Wiki is my friend!) G.J.S. is right, it was "Ethan" for Rolling Thunder, with "Disco" introduced for the Linebacker campaign. I think they also had airborne C-130's acting as the ABCCC (airborne Command & Control)  and many of the other stuff that we see today in complex Air Campaigns first introduced in the Vietnam War. A lot of the Navy's CROWN doctrine started as a solution to countering the kamikaze attacks at the end of WWII, and has been refined ever since. Flying the DCS F-15/16 & 18 with IFF nearly always correct (well in some multiplayer games I would question some players ability to read that correctly!), where as back in the 1960s the "game"(?) was much harder and proved to be a real challenge. 

It'll be interesting to see how IFF is modelled in DCS with the F-4. Either a lot of "declare" calls to the AI E-2/3 AWACs or a "jester" that is vaguely competent....... 

F-4s have internal IFF interrogator systems. It'll probably be a Jester system.

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On 3/27/2023 at 2:17 AM, Aussie_Mantis said:

F-4s have internal IFF interrogator systems. It'll probably be a Jester system.

 

EC-121 for a long time had no IFF. It's a long and interesting story, because USN for some time used ... IFF of russian planes to recognize a enemy plane type.

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On 4/1/2023 at 9:25 PM, 303_Kermit said:

long and interesting story

Now you made me curious! 🤩

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Yeah, I'm wanting to hear this story, because it doesn't align with my understanding.

The EC-121 and WV-2 definitely used IFF systems, they were equipped with the QRC-248 which was able to interrogate Warsaw Pact transponders.  This was in use a few years before Combat Tree was installed in Phantoms.

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