Leichtester Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Hey DCS Community, Does anybody knows the difference between the F16C and D and the block 50 and 52 versions? Best regards! German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Exorcet Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 C - single seat D - twin seat 50 - GE engine 52 - PW engine 1 1 Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
Leichtester Posted March 12, 2023 Author Posted March 12, 2023 vor 11 Stunden schrieb Exorcet: C - single seat D - twin seat 50 - GE engine 52 - PW engine Thank you! German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Cupra Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) The second info belongs to all C/D Models. So all versions with 0 at the end have the GE enginge, with 2 its the PW enginge. 20/25, 30/32, 40/42 and so on. At A/B Models i am not sure.. guess they where a single engine type only.. Edited March 12, 2023 by Cupra 1 DCS F-16C Blk. 40/42 :helpsmilie: Candidate - 480th VFS - Cupra | 06
Leichtester Posted March 12, 2023 Author Posted March 12, 2023 The second info belongs to all C/D Models. So all versions with 0 at the end have the GE enginge, with 2 its the PW enginge. 20/25, 30/32, 40/42 and so on. At A/B Models i am not sure.. guess they where a single engine type only..Yes thank you, think so too.Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Aquorys Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 3:19 AM, Exorcet said: 50 - GE engine 52 - PW engine By the way, did you ever hear this one: "If it says Pratt & Whitney on the engine, it had better say Martin Baker on the seat" 1 F-16 / Su-33 / Ka-50 F-16 Checklists (Kneeboard compatible) F-16 BVR training missions
Leichtester Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 By the way, did you ever hear this one: "If it says Pratt & Whitney on the engine, it had better say Martin Baker on the seat" No never heard, what does it mean? Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Dragon1-1 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Leichtester said: No never heard, what does it mean? Edited March 13, 2023 by Dragon1-1
Leichtester Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
F-2 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 22 hours ago, Cupra said: The second info belongs to all C/D Models. So all versions with 0 at the end have the GE enginge, with 2 its the PW enginge. 20/25, 30/32, 40/42 and so on. At A/B Models i am not sure.. guess they where a single engine type only.. It doesn’t technically hold true for 20 and 25. 25 was the first C in 1984 and predated GE engines. 20 was used retroactively for F-16A sold to Taiwan in the 90s. Unlike other MLU aircraft these where new build aircraft and where structurally more similarly to a Block 32 but with an F-16A small tail.
Leichtester Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 It doesn’t technically hold true for 20 and 25. 25 was the first C in 1984 and predated GE engines. 20 was used retroactively for F-16A sold to Taiwan in the 90s. Unlike other MLU aircraft these where new build aircraft and where structurally more similarly to a Block 32 but with an F-16A small tail.I see, thank you! But what does MLU mean?Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 45 minutes ago, Leichtester said: what does MLU mean https://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article2.html Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
Leichtester Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 https://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article2.htmlGesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Leichtester Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 Does anybody knows, if the F16CM bl. 50 (DCS Version) CFT (Conformal Fuel Tanks) has? I saw an article which describes, that the F16C/D Block 50/52 Plus these has. But the „Plus“ version is invented earlier, isn‘t it?Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Leichtester Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 Does anybody knows, if the F16CM bl. 50 (DCS Version) CFT (Conformal Fuel Tanks) has? I saw an article which describes, that the F16C/D Block 50/52 Plus these has. But the „Plus“ version is invented earlier, isn‘t it?Gesendet von iPad mit TapatalkI think yes, I made a bit of research and every source says, that it is intentioned by the Block 50/52 version. So, Eagle Dynamics… please…Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Dragon1-1 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 No, the US Block 50s don't have CFTs. Export Block 52s do. As a general rule, the blocks with the PW engine are much more widely exported, while the Vipers with GE engines are for domestic use. We have a US Viper. 1
Leichtester Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 vor 3 Stunden schrieb Dragon1-1: No, the US Block 50s don't have CFTs. Export Block 52s do. As a general rule, the blocks with the PW engine are much more widely exported, while the Vipers with GE engines are for domestic use. We have a US Viper. ok thank you! German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Cupra Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 At least, there is not really any thing on western hemisphere that can`t be found on a F-16 anywhere I would guess that there is nearly any possible version existing in RL somewhere out there. Nearly all kinds of weapons can be carried (okay, GBU-28 would maybe not really be the first choice) and will be somewhere. The version in DCS "should" be a singel version taht was used by a single unit in a special time. They chenged the real loadouts already (4 HARM`s now possible, don´t know if still usabel, but it has been some time ago), so maybe it will get more other useful stuff in future too If there come GBU-39 (also uses for example in the RNlAF) I would be very happy DCS F-16C Blk. 40/42 :helpsmilie: Candidate - 480th VFS - Cupra | 06
Leichtester Posted March 14, 2023 Author Posted March 14, 2023 At least, there is not really any thing on western hemisphere that can`t be found on a F-16 anywhere I would guess that there is nearly any possible version existing in RL somewhere out there. Nearly all kinds of weapons can be carried (okay, GBU-28 would maybe not really be the first choice) and will be somewhere. The version in DCS "should" be a singel version taht was used by a single unit in a special time. They chenged the real loadouts already (4 HARM`s now possible, don´t know if still usabel, but it has been some time ago), so maybe it will get more other useful stuff in future too If there come GBU-39 (also uses for example in the RNlAF) I would be very happy Yes, I think the GBU-39 would be very nice . Do you think they make all of the systems intern of the F16? I mean the systems at the moment are not really finished. I know they are making the DTE/DTC, but there are some systems left.Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Dragon1-1 Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 We've got a National Guard F-16 circa 2005. We can load 4xHARMs because some units that flew this specific jet chose to wire their pylons up for this. I doubt we'll get the SDB, they came to the Viper at a fairly late date. That'd require a Viper model for the similar timeframe as A-10C2, and I'm not sure if that info is out there.
Leichtester Posted March 14, 2023 Author Posted March 14, 2023 We've got a National Guard F-16 circa 2005. We can load 4xHARMs because some units that flew this specific jet chose to wire their pylons up for this. I doubt we'll get the SDB, they came to the Viper at a fairly late date. That'd require a Viper model for the similar timeframe as A-10C2, and I'm not sure if that info is out there.It would be very nice but its not very realistic Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Aquorys Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/13/2023 at 2:32 PM, Leichtester said: No never heard, what does it mean? Well, Pratt & Whitney makes engines, and Martin Baker makes ejection seats. I guess y'all can figure it out on your own now. F-16 / Su-33 / Ka-50 F-16 Checklists (Kneeboard compatible) F-16 BVR training missions
Leichtester Posted March 14, 2023 Author Posted March 14, 2023 Well, Pratt & Whitney makes engines, and Martin Baker makes ejection seats. I guess y'all can figure it out on your own now. Yes, I watched the Video Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
Leichtester Posted March 18, 2023 Author Posted March 18, 2023 How can I set this section as Solved? German 22nd Spartans: https://22ndspartans.de Primary: F-16C, A-10C Specs: RTX 4090, I9-12900k, 32GB RAM
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