Pilot body, is that coming any time soon and...

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Thing is, when we get a new pilot model ED also needs to adjust the position of the HUD: right now the HUD is aimed at the pilot's chest. This is very obvious in VR when you look down (you're sitting *in* the seat instead of *on* it), and you can also very easily see it when checking the position of the pilot's head in external view (F2) compared to where the default viewpoint is in F1 view.

[zerO_crash]

Chizh confirmed me in RU-forums some time ago, that it´s coming this year. With that said, there is always a chance it might be delayed for any number of reasons. That said, ED knows we need it, and pretty bad too. It´s coming!

Edited April 22 by zerO_crash

[OhNoMyHookBroke]

On 4/16/2025 at 8:08 AM, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Thing is, when we get a new pilot model ED also needs to adjust the position of the HUD: right now the HUD is aimed at the pilot's chest. This is very obvious in VR when you look down (you're sitting *in* the seat instead of *on* it), and you can also very easily see it when checking the position of the pilot's head in external view (F2) compared to where the default viewpoint is in F1 view.

I'd use the cockpit camera move keybinds to fix your camera angle, and you can also adjust the camera views through the settings, although it requires you to actually know what you're doing and will probably reset after an update or break IC. 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

3 hours ago, OhNoMyHookBroke said:

I'd use the cockpit camera move keybinds to fix your camera angle, and you can also adjust the camera views through the settings, although it requires you to actually know what you're doing and will probably reset after an update or break IC. 

As I said, if you do that you can no longer see the top half of the HUD.

[Fear-Factor]

So....is here any progress? Bignewy, your last response here was end of december.....

[Fear-Factor]

Another month and another question.....when?
August 2025 meanwhile..... so i assume zero progress in that topic

[kotor633]

Hi,

zerO_crash wrote "that it's coming this year." Which, in DCS terms, means "be patient."

[Bvv.Fr]

they couldn't care less 

[Fear-Factor]

So whats the status? Any progress from the dev team? 
Guess no pilot body in 2025.... (my realistic opinion)

[zerO_crash]

For some reason, a lot of the community that has joined the last circa 5-7 years are very defeatist in their approach to life. It's as if depression is the common theme going through and through. Let me make this clear; take it easy! Yes, I have been told that Ka-50 III pilot body, and naturally HUD (english language) are coming this year, but this is all subject to change. It makes me melancholic to remember times pre DCS, where you either flew Ka-50 or A-10C in separate environments that couldn't do coop. We were waiting for years, to finally have the ability to merge the two in what is today known as DCS. We were waiting even longer for some of the modules that have popped up ridiculously fast the last couple of years.

 

Truth of the matter is that ED has to run a successful business in order to ensure long-term survivability of the simulator (hence why there is literally no competition on the commercial market, and relatively little relevant competition on the professional side). If you are grown up, then treat all the information you recieve with a buffer, understanding that certain things might pop up inbetween and ruin the plans. At the moment, I haven't heard of anything, so take it easy. There are still months left of 2025. If it doesn't happen in '25, then maybe '26 or '27. ED knows we want/need it, hence it becoming a standard introduction into every new module lately. 

 

Take a cup of coffee, and a deep breath. It'll be there before you know it.

[Brigg]

Yeah this is a huge disappointment for the Black Shark 3. Especially in vr and a hover attack helicopter as unlike a fast mover you can be eyes in cockpit for long periods of time 

[Fear-Factor]

Am 5.10.2025 um 16:10 schrieb zerO_crash:

For some reason, a lot of the community that has joined the last circa 5-7 years are very defeatist in their approach to life. It's as if depression is the common theme going through and through. Let me make this clear; take it easy! Yes, I have been told that Ka-50 III pilot body, and naturally HUD (english language) are coming this year, but this is all subject to change. It makes me melancholic to remember times pre DCS, where you either flew Ka-50 or A-10C in separate environments that couldn't do coop. We were waiting for years, to finally have the ability to merge the two in what is today known as DCS. We were waiting even longer for some of the modules that have popped up ridiculously fast the last couple of years.

 

Truth of the matter is that ED has to run a successful business in order to ensure long-term survivability of the simulator (hence why there is literally no competition on the commercial market, and relatively little relevant competition on the professional side). If you are grown up, then treat all the information you recieve with a buffer, understanding that certain things might pop up inbetween and ruin the plans. At the moment, I haven't heard of anything, so take it easy. There are still months left of 2025. If it doesn't happen in '25, then maybe '26 or '27. ED knows we want/need it, hence it becoming a standard introduction into every new module lately. 

 

Take a cup of coffee, and a deep breath. It'll be there before you know it.

Well, no communication is also a form of communication
You know nothing about me or others so keep you life wisedom for you please
And its nice from your side to teach others and to apologize in name of others.
But in this particular topic for me its boring to read such apologizing again and again.

This kind of work usually wouldnt take even a half year (and this is amongous time for such task).
But its ok, i dont ask here anymore coz its pointless. 
 

[zerO_crash]

38 minutes ago, Fear-Factor said:

Well, no communication is also a form of communication
You know nothing about me or others so keep you life wisedom for you please
And its nice from your side to teach others and to apologize in name of others.
But in this particular topic for me its boring to read such apologizing again and again.

This kind of work usually wouldnt take even a half year (and this is amongous time for such task).
But its ok, i dont ask here anymore coz its pointless. 
 

 

Who I know about and what, is not something you'd know about. Keep it to your capacity. As to my comment, it isn't either teaching nor apologizing - it's stating how things have always worked around here. Each part of the community wants something solely, but if ED attempted to do everything at once, they'd stall and nothing would ever get done (now I'm teaching). 

 

I asked Chizh, he gave me an honest answer. I will neither push on him, nor will I pull the "You promised us - here, look at your comment made."- card, as that is; a) disrespectful, b) showing lack of understanding that there are, surprisingly, even more pressing issues with the sim waiting to get fixed for longer, c) because people have held ED staff accountable to such statements literally, and we've had breaks in communication as it is virtually impossible to guarantee anything with software. As it stands, he said "within this year", and so far, this year has not ended yet. 

 

"This kind of work usually wouldnt take even a half year (and this is amongous time for such task)." - This statement alone, would get you very popular on the RU-side (sarcasm). How ED loves hearing their customers tell them how coding works, and how little work and time it is to implement "just this one feature that I love". That comment alone tells a whole lot in itself.

Edited 15 hours ago by zerO_crash

[Fear-Factor]

Ive didnt talked about promises etc. 
I just see when this discussion started (19 march 2023) and where we are now.
I dont care about other forum parts or escpecially reputation judging from some users in other sections.
Lets come back to the topic...yes, ive just asked several times about in my opinion simple task (compared to other ED tasks).
I am not the only one here who is asking for it. 

As far as i know ED made already few pilot bodys so they do not start everytime from scratch on every module (i hope so).
At least this would be a proper way of working to use let say a "skeleton model" and placing it to other modules so there only modifications on existing model.
If this is not like this so this is then lets say politely "poor way of working". Thats all.
ED could show even ultra early pilot body state or picture (work in progress, whatever) during this 2 years so then maybe i would try to belive that someone is working on that. 
Anyway. For my part everything is clear now and i will stop further asking. 
 

[zerO_crash]

I'm not going to waste my time on educating you why things work like they do, and why things take longer than expected. Counter to what you believe, you actually need a lot of schooling, you should improve your ability to absorb information. There is a reason things are, as they are, but you keep acting childish when you should read with understanding. Remember, this community was built before you came here - who are you to dictate demands?!

 

If that doesn't come fair and square over, then let me explain to you your legal course of action. By purchasing/using ED software, you automatically accept that it's on their terms, one being that "Everything is subject to change.". This includes the time aspect. If you disagree with this, you shouldn't have casually accepted their terms, and you shouldn't be using their software. Now, if you feel that they are treating you bad, let me educate you fully on the subject; at the beginning of this year, me and a couple of other users have made a new inquiry about a bug concerning MiG-15Bis, which I originally described six years ago. While the bug is difficult to prove, it still upholds the case - six years! Act adult and accept it!

 

If you feel like quarreling more on something that ED under no circumstance is obliged to (they do it as a means of pleaaing the community), then call your lawyer and take it to the court. Anything else is wasting letters and other's time.

Oh and, you're welcome! Afterall, I've been pushing on this longer than you've been a member, and me transferring the formation from the (in this case) more informed Russian forum, is pure Pro Bono.

 

That's that!

Edited 8 hours ago by zerO_crash

[BIGNEWY]

this is getting way off topic. 

Again when we have news to share we will share it. 

thank you