Wyvern Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 its just aim-120 being aim-120 i think I have 600GB in skins in my Saved Games. 200GB of that is probably made by myself. Check out my DCS UserFiles section Join the Official Deka Ironwork Simulations discord server!
Napillo Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/14/2023 at 11:53 PM, okopanja said: 2023-09-15 08-50-25.mp4 2.18 MB · 1 download Another interesting: - climbed - popped 2 chaff Missile goes stupid without achieving the notch conditions. Could this be ECM bug? definitely odd, maybe its intercept is at 90 degrees, so its like 'nope, notched'. I bet it's something in the notch calculations thats off.
whisky.actual Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Sorry for the ping @uboats, but did you guys remove the PL-12 (DIS_PL-12) CLSID in 2.9? Could you please add it back in the next OB? Much appreciated!
okopanja Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, whisky.actual said: Sorry for the ping @uboats, but did you guys remove the PL-12 (DIS_PL-12) CLSID in 2.9? Could you please add it back in the next OB? Much appreciated! if you edited the files in the installation folder to enable PL-12s then, update to 2.9 did revert those changes. You can reapply the change to files, but in this case you will also fail integrity check and will not be able to join many servers.
whisky.actual Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, okopanja said: if you edited the files in the installation folder to enable PL-12s then, update to 2.9 did revert those changes. You can reapply the change to files, but in this case you will also fail integrity check and will not be able to join many servers. That's not the issue, the CLSID was removed from the DLL code, and now PL-12s are UNK and can't be fired Edited October 22, 2023 by whisky.actual
okopanja Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, whisky.actual said: That's not the issue, the CLSID was removed from the DLL code, and now PL-12s are UNK and can't be fired You are right I see the same.
okopanja Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) @uboats I recently got the module and are still learning, so possibly I may have also made an error (I know how to load DTC). Can you please comment on PL-12s apparently not working anymore with JF-17 when they are part of payload preloaded into mission? This can be observed on GS server. Note: flankers are still able to utilize PL-12 there. Another question: we have seen improvement in AIM-120C resistance to ECM bug cheat. Were the same changes applied to PL-12 as well? Edited October 28, 2023 by okopanja
Mike_Romeo Posted November 16, 2023 Posted November 16, 2023 @uboats why PL-12 only appear as unkown on SMS. I though you guys would keep that :C 1 My skins
uboats Posted November 17, 2023 Author Posted November 17, 2023 16 hours ago, Mike_Romeo said: @uboats why PL-12 only appear as unkown on SMS. I though you guys would keep that :C Thunder SMS database has no pl12, only sd10. All allowed weapon are hardcoded 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn |
whisky.actual Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 @uboats so why did you have it in 2.8? https://youtu.be/NQFlihUZCNg?si=QYrpHPlCvOBQ3t_c
Wyvern Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 that video is outdated and will get deleted I have 600GB in skins in my Saved Games. 200GB of that is probably made by myself. Check out my DCS UserFiles section Join the Official Deka Ironwork Simulations discord server!
okopanja Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wyvern said: that video is outdated and will get deleted the instructions do not work anymore on JF-17?
Wyvern Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 the instructions do not work anymore on JF-17?Nope, the feature was removed Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk 1 I have 600GB in skins in my Saved Games. 200GB of that is probably made by myself. Check out my DCS UserFiles section Join the Official Deka Ironwork Simulations discord server!
ShadowFrost Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 It was for testing purposes between the current SD-10 scheme and the new seeker/scheme. I'll let Uboats say any specifics, but it was only for testing purposes AFAIK.
Wyvern Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 4:41 AM, ShadowFrost said: It was for testing purposes between the current SD-10 scheme and the new seeker/scheme. I'll let Uboats say any specifics, but it was only for testing purposes AFAIK. I'm not Uboats, but yes, that was the point of it. I just looked at the files, and the PL-12 still is using the AIM-120 api. So if anyone wants to test still, you will need to do so on the J-11A, by modifying the files yourself. If anyone wants, I can upload a modded lua, so you wont have to make edits yourself. 2 I have 600GB in skins in my Saved Games. 200GB of that is probably made by myself. Check out my DCS UserFiles section Join the Official Deka Ironwork Simulations discord server!
My_Name_Jeff Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 3:46 PM, Napillo said: definitely odd, maybe its intercept is at 90 degrees, so its like 'nope, notched'. I bet it's something in the notch calculations thats off. Im having that issue right now with the sd10 it's definitely not behaving like before
Yayo1 Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 Made one test to compare pl-12 and sd-10 missiles(using j-11a for launch). I turn off radar after several seconds after missiles launch. PL-12 travel correctly and hits target. But SD-10 travel into sky and lost target. Is any issue with SD-10 or not? j11a_pl12_test1.trk j11a_sd10_test2.trk
okopanja Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 44 minutes ago, Yayo1 said: Made one test to compare pl-12 and sd-10 missiles(using j-11a for launch). I turn off radar after several seconds after missiles launch. PL-12 travel correctly and hits target. But SD-10 travel into sky and lost target. Is any issue with SD-10 or not? j11a_pl12_test1.trk 140.03 kB · 0 downloads j11a_sd10_test2.trk 132.55 kB · 0 downloads I think there is an issue with all missiles on old API. The new API is not affected by this. PL-12 is a testbad in DCS for SD-10 that will likely transition in future to new API. Here is the relevant comment. If you did not upgrade please upgrade, if it still does not work probably it did not yet make it to latest release. @uboatsplease confirm.
DSplayer Posted June 7, 2024 Posted June 7, 2024 10 hours ago, okopanja said: I think there is an issue with all missiles on old API. The new API is not affected by this. PL-12 is a testbad in DCS for SD-10 that will likely transition in future to new API. Here is the relevant comment. If you did not upgrade please upgrade, if it still does not work probably it did not yet make it to latest release. @uboatsplease confirm. Those missiles (R-77, AIM-54, AIM-9s, etc.) use an even older API compared to the SD-10's relatively new API. Discord: @dsplayer Setup: R7 7800X3D, 64GB 6000Mhz, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Resources I've Made: F-4E RWR PRF Sound Player | DCS DTC Web Editor Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14
Yayo1 Posted October 6, 2024 Posted October 6, 2024 В 06.06.2024 в 16:23, Yayo1 сказал: Made one test to compare pl-12 and sd-10 missiles(using j-11a for launch). I turn off radar after several seconds after missiles launch. PL-12 travel correctly and hits target. But SD-10 travel into sky and lost target. Is any issue with SD-10 or not? j11a_pl12_test1.trk 140.03 \u043a\u0411 · 97 загрузок j11a_sd10_test2.trk 132.55 \u043a\u0411 · 96 загрузок After several patches, the SD-10 still has a issue. The missile does not memory path towards the target(If radar is off after launch or lost the target lock). Any chance that this issue will be fixed? (in the test is non maneuvering target)
okopanja Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/6/2024 at 10:11 PM, Yayo1 said: After several patches, the SD-10 still has a issue. The missile does not memory path towards the target(If radar is off after launch or lost the target lock). Any chance that this issue will be fixed? (in the test is non maneuvering target) It's not really a bug, this is how old API model works. SD-10 has not switched to Pl-12. We have seen gradual improvements on PL-12, and e.g. it appears to fly toward calculated intercept point. My personally observations: - It is still not perfect, since happens that Mach 3 missile still hits target from behind and does not kill it to frequently - notching seems to be too easy.
Yayo1 Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 В 17.10.2024 в 13:01, okopanja сказал: It's not really a bug, this is how old API model works. SD-10 has not switched to Pl-12. We have seen gradual improvements on PL-12, and e.g. it appears to fly toward calculated intercept point. My personally observations: - It is still not perfect, since happens that Mach 3 missile still hits target from behind and does not kill it to frequently - notching seems to be too easy. I agree that these are the features of the current API SD-10. But some temporary solution is needed until the moment when SD-10 will be switched to a more advanced API. (For better missile behavior) simple INS needed 2
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