Autopilot BALT Not Working

[SharpeXB]

16 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Ahhhhh! Okay, phew!
Yes, agree with this!
Deadzones are not wanted for obvious reasons. The only time I can think of are spiking potentiometers in old sticks.

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Yeah that was my point. Adding a dead zone isn’t a good solution for this problem. 

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, markom said:

The laws I am referring to were from a different continent

I can’t imagine any law would require a dead zone. More likely they limit it. 

Edited May 15, 2023 by SharpeXB

[MAXsenna]

I can’t imagine any law would require a dead zone. More likely they limit it. 

Pretty sure that's what he meant!

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[SharpeXB]

On 5/14/2023 at 11:21 AM, markom said:

Nope, was a legal requirement.

The word you’re looking for here is “limit” not “requirement”. 

[markom]

So, when I say it was required, I mean what I say. It's not that there was only a limit to it (there was), but there was also a requirement to have a dead zone of +/- X (I think 10) degrees from neutral where input would not translate to motion of the wheel. Why was it like that, I have no idea, but it's what it was. /shrug

Also, quick binging tells me that some of the reasons may had to do with "older drivers". In any case, it was a thing that wasn't always "shabby build", but oftentimes done on purpose with, a perhaps, misguided intent of preventing accidents.

[SharpeXB]

49 minutes ago, markom said:

So, when I say it was required, I mean what I say. It's not that there was only a limit to it (there was), but there was also a requirement to have a dead zone of +/- X (I think 10) degrees from neutral where input would not translate to motion of the wheel. Why was it like that, I have no idea, but it's what it was. /shrug

Also, quick binging tells me that some of the reasons may had to do with "older drivers". In any case, it was a thing that wasn't always "shabby build", but oftentimes done on purpose with, a perhaps, misguided intent of preventing accidents.

Seems odd. Engineering history is full of bad ideas I suppose. 
Heck look at misguided aircraft designs and such. 

[markom]

That's how we as humans generally learn. Launch and iterate

[Phantom711]

Am 16.5.2023 um 00:38 schrieb SharpeXB:

Seems odd. Engineering history is full of bad ideas I suppose. 
Heck look at misguided aircraft designs and such. 

No. It is very reasonable. Remember, this is from a time before power steering. The power steering dampens the movement of the steering wheel if your wheels hit a bump or pothole or whatever. 
Without power steering and no „dead zone“ that bump would lead to very sudden movements of the steering wheel to a point, where it could be dangerous or at least impossible to drive.

My stepfather once told me, that on a truck (without power steering) you were not supposed to „grab“ the inside of the steering wheel with your thumbs, but to keep them on the outside. Deadzone or not, steering wheels could still snap (if the bump was big enough) and could break your thumbs.

[SharpeXB]

43 minutes ago, Phantom711 said:

No. It is very reasonable. Remember, this is from a time before power steering. The power steering dampens the movement of the steering wheel if your wheels hit a bump or pothole or whatever. 
Without power steering and no „dead zone“ that bump would lead to very sudden movements of the steering wheel to a point, where it could be dangerous or at least impossible to drive.

My stepfather once told me, that on a truck (without power steering) you were not supposed to „grab“ the inside of the steering wheel with your thumbs, but to keep them on the outside. Deadzone or not, steering wheels could still snap (if the bump was big enough) and could break your thumbs.

That’s kinda what I figured earlier. The downside though would be a car with loose front wheels. Not ideal either. In any case a dead zone in a flight sim isn’t a good idea. 

[HILOK]

On 5/11/2023 at 10:48 PM, SharpeXB said:

The BATL function on the autopilot doesn't work. I think this is because it won't engage if you don't have the stick centered but the game is now too sensitive and picks up any micro input. It wasn't this way before Stable 2.8.4.39731

it has been too sensitive even before, in my opinion. 

btw, the manual states: "Lateral stick displacement greater than 0.5 inch causes the autopilot to decouple from the steering mode".

it would seem logical to me that this behavior also transfers to engagement criteria. but also if this is not the case, this is a simulator, and given the limitations of game controllers, there should be a higher tolerance to 'centered stick' for AP engagement, rather than have everyone set a dead zone, which is even more unrealistic and has a negative effect on manual flight precision.

[BarTzi]

I have a very small dead zone as a result of this. It does nothing to my flying other than guarantee the engagement of the AP when I need it.