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It would be nice if AI AV-8s could land at abandoned runways near Kobuleti and Kutaisi. Those airfields would make great FARPs with both short field takeoffs and landings.

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On 4/25/2025 at 12:33 PM, ruxtmp said:

It would be nice if AI AV-8s could land at abandoned runways near Kobuleti and Kutaisi. Those airfields would make great FARPs with both short field takeoffs and landings.

Just add invisible farms and equipment. 

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I mean the AV-8B can land vertically. You can do ops on the roads and such, no need for an airport per se.

'Nearly everyone felt the need to express their views on all wars to me, starting with mine. I found myself thinking, “I ate the crap sandwich, you didn’t, so please don’t tell me how it tastes.”' - CPT Cole, US Army
 
 

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8 minutes ago, EricJ said:

I mean the AV-8B can land vertically. You can do ops on the roads and such, no need for an airport per se.

Landing vertically isn't usually much of a problem. Taking off again with any sensible loadout is. And while it may be possible to find a bit of road suitable for STO on most maps, they aren't always easy to find.

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13 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

Landing vertically isn't usually much of a problem. Taking off again with any sensible loadout is. And while it may be possible to find a bit of road suitable for STO on most maps, they aren't always easy to find.

Fair enough, but back in Flanker 2.51 I did road ops with an Su-33, but then again I don't fly the Harrier so I don't know how much you really need, but it'll take some time to find some roads though. Granted DCS isn't F2.51, the roads should be fairly similar. And any mission designer should be able to make some stuff happen anyway, so it's just a matter of finding a good stretch for you.

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1 minute ago, EricJ said:

I don't fly the Harrier so I don't know how much you really need...

Depends on weight, wind, altitude, temperature etc.

As ballpark figures (per MacDonnell Douglas, which may be a tad optimistic) , at max all-up weight (31,000 lb), sea level, with no wind, at 15°C, you'll need a minimum of 1,400 ft ground roll, and 3,000 ft to clear a 50 ft obstacle. That's assuming you can find a straight flat road that long. It would probably be easier if DCS didn't  place centre dividers on so many multi-lane roads.

The South Atlantic map has lots of short runways on the mainland, and a couple of what are effectively FARPs on the Falklands (Goose Green, San Carlos) which are just about long enough to be usable (at reduced loadouts) while being short enough to make things interesting.

 

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Ahh I guess when I get my new laptop up and running I can see what you mean. But good luck though...

'Nearly everyone felt the need to express their views on all wars to me, starting with mine. I found myself thinking, “I ate the crap sandwich, you didn’t, so please don’t tell me how it tastes.”' - CPT Cole, US Army
 
 

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For player aircraft roads and the runways I mentioned work great. It is just AI cant takeoff from or land on them unless its a vertical landing. That would not be a realitic use of the runway length.

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