777coletrain Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Myself and the group I fly with have noticed that non-link 16 aircraft tend to not show up on L16. However when I tested it a player flying a AV8B was showing up on L16 although it was intermittent. Does anyone know what causes aircraft to just randomly drop off link or not show up in general?
Dr_Pavelheer Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Aircraft can report its own position if it's connected to the network, or lacking that can be detected by one of the donors like EWR, AWACS, another fighter. Latter is obviously less reliable 1
777coletrain Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 Yeah, but I've encountered several situations where non-donor friendly aircraft don't show up on the network when the should be visible from the AWACS
SickSidewinder9 Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 Tankers seem to have a way of doing that. Like it's a stealth tanker, lol. And how much should we really seeing on the data link? It seems we have quite the paucity of info. Did it not get better till after the F-16 we're supposed to have?
Flyfighter101 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 @777coletrain There are a numbers of factors that determine if you are going to get data over Link16. Most noteably in DCS, is your INS and your position compared to the other Link16 users. Sharp movement can also disrupt the dataflow. a INS: If your INS is not precise enough, it will not get TOD(time of day) and will not get synced up to Link16. Check your INS, if I remember correctly, it needs to be greater than /63, anything greater than that should be okay. Position: Link16 is a LOS(Line Of Sight) datalink. It will only share data(position) if the other users are within LOS. If you are flying in vallyes and around big mountains. You are likely to go out of LOS, and then not recieve any data. As an answer to @SickSidewinder9 last message. The Link16 that we have in DCS currently is much better than it is in real life. In real life it updates around every 12th second. In which it has gone a whole circle to those who are saying something. In DCS the update is much more frequent, and I like it that way. lets not change that.
SickSidewinder9 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, Flyfighter101 said: @777coletrain There are a numbers of factors that determine if you are going to get data over Link16. Most noteably in DCS, is your INS and your position compared to the other Link16 users. Sharp movement can also disrupt the dataflow. a INS: If your INS is not precise enough, it will not get TOD(time of day) and will not get synced up to Link16. Check your INS, if I remember correctly, it needs to be greater than /63, anything greater than that should be okay. Position: Link16 is a LOS(Line Of Sight) datalink. It will only share data(position) if the other users are within LOS. If you are flying in vallyes and around big mountains. You are likely to go out of LOS, and then not recieve any data. As an answer to @SickSidewinder9 last message. The Link16 that we have in DCS currently is much better than it is in real life. In real life it updates around every 12th second. In which it has gone a whole circle to those who are saying something. In DCS the update is much more frequent, and I like it that way. lets not change that. I figured, but I wasn't commenting on update speed. I was commenting more on Viper vs Hornet and how much more info we get in the Hornet and how it gets displayed.
Ignition Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Flyfighter101 said: @777coletrain As an answer to @SickSidewinder9 last message. The Link16 that we have in DCS currently is much better than it is in real life. In real life it updates around every 12th second. In which it has gone a whole circle to those who are saying something. In DCS the update is much more frequent, and I like it that way. lets not change that. In real life it updates much faster, 12 seconds is the worst update it can have. It depends on the ammount participants and works something like token ring. Edited June 4, 2023 by Ignition
777coletrain Posted June 7, 2023 Author Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) @Flyfighter101 That doesn't really explain why I'll lose one member of my flight randomly when they are flying around a mile away from me and not maneuvering. I've also noticed that sometimes when you see aircraft on your radar they suddenly aren't showing on Link. Is it just dropping that information when the radar picks them up? Edited June 7, 2023 by 777coletrain
_SteelFalcon_ Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 12 hours ago, 777coletrain said: I've also noticed that sometimes when you see aircraft on your radar they suddenly aren't showing on Link. Is it just dropping that information when the radar picks them up? There‘s a bug report about that part. As soon as your radar sees the contact, all datalink info about it is lost
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