Viper1031 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Apologies if this has been addressed, but will the MWS eventually work in the Viper?
ricktoberfest Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 I believe the answer is no. It’s not actually installed in the specific block f16 that ours is modeled after. The buttons are there for export versions that might have it installed as an option. 45 minutes ago, Viper1031 said: Apologies if this has been addressed, but will the MWS eventually work in the Viper?
Dragon1-1 Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 Actually, I think the switch is there because the CMDS itself is capable of taking MWS input, even if this particular airframe never had it. The control panel is standard and comes with the system. I don't know of any Viper variants with MWS, foreign or not.
VarZat Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Dragon1-1 said: Actually, I think the switch is there because the CMDS itself is capable of taking MWS input, even if this particular airframe never had it. The control panel is standard and comes with the system. I don't know of any Viper variants with MWS, foreign or not. I know the Danish and Norwegian vipers had special pylons that brought MWS functionality.
okopanja Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, VarZat said: I know the Danish and Norwegian vipers had special pylons that brought MWS functionality. Dp you have source with year of introduction? Btw: this one looks like it has a smashed glass...
VarZat Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32521/air-force-f-16s-are-getting-pylons-with-built-in-missile-warning-sensors-and-countermeasures US air force didnt get them untill 2020.
Tholozor Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, okopanja said: Dp you have source with year of introduction? Btw: this one looks like it has a smashed glass... AFAIK, MWS-compatible pylons were introduced with MLU M3 (maybe M2) on EPAF F-16s, so somewhere around the early-to-mid-2000s(?), possibly late-90s, but definitely not used in USAF service for this block/timeframe. Pylon-Integrated Dispenser System pylons (PIDS) were originally only store racks with chaff dispensers built-in. Once they were upgraded to carry IAMs, they also added provisions to mount MWS sensors, but didn't come standard (PIDSU), and could eventually have MWS installed on them (PIDSU+, referred to as PIDS+ in the SMS). Electronic Countermeasure Integrated Pylon System (ECIPS, or referred to as MAUQ in the SMS) pylons were originally only store racks with integrated jammers. Same as the PIDS pylons, they were also upgraded for IAMs without the MWS (ECIPSU), and could also have them installed (ECIPSU+, referred to as MAUQ+ in the SMS). The article @VarZat linked also has a similar breakdown of the variants. Edited June 15, 2023 by Tholozor 2 REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/
Ramstein Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 DCS F-16 optical warning? I am suspicious of IR like from SA-8. Thanx ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI (trying to hang on for a bit longer) 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR
Tholozor Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 SA-8 doesn't use infrared-guided missiles. This variant of F-16 also isn't equipped with optically-based missile launch warning systems like on the A-10 or AH-64. REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/
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