F-15E Module Will Not Launch Into Any Mission

[allen6090]

Installed F-15E module. Launched 1 training mission, 1 included mission with download. Each time everything loads well. Then at start of each mission loads 3/4 up, then DCS disappears /crashes with no error windows. Able to fly all of my other modules just not F-15E. It never goes to any missions since downloaded. I have attached a log. Performed cleanup, all vanilla folders installed, and performed 2 repairs. Still will not launch into a mission. 

Suggestions welcomed.

 

Thank you.

dcs.log

[Rudel_chw]

Rename the folder C:\Users\ALucas\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Mods

to Mods.bak

… this is to check if any of your mods us conflicting.

if the problem disappears then one of your Mods is conflicting with the F15E.

[DerVulf]

I have the exact same issue.

Tried the Mods.bak trick but still no joy

[Rudel_chw]

Just now, DerVulf said:

I have the exact same issue.

Tried the Mods.bak trick but still no joy

 

attach your dcs.log to loook for clues

[DerVulf]

no log is being generated AFAIK.

Progress bar on Mission loading screen gets about 3/4 done and then straight to Desktop

 

[Rudel_chw]

29 minutes ago, DerVulf said:

no log is being generated AFAIK.

 

Check at /saved games/DCS/Logs/dcs.log  .. the date of the file should be the date/time you last run DCS

[DerVulf]

Ahh...Ok.

Found it

dcs.log

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, DerVulf said:

Progress bar on Mission loading screen gets about 3/4 done and then straight to Desktop

 

Hi,

Seems to me that your DCS fails because of lack of memory, your PC only has 10 GB. Try the following:

1) Disable the LOT ATC add-on.

2) Disable SRS-Radio

3) Reduce the "preload Radius" graphic option of DCS to 35,000

 

Hopefully that will reduce the RAM requirement enough to let your DCS to run with the F-15E

[audiodistortion]

So I'm not the only one...

I believe that there's a system spec compatability issue with this particular module.

I've requested a refund.

An i7-930 CPU ... and mine's an i7-980X CPU

Neither support AVX instructions...

 

 

 

Edited June 23, 2023 by audiodistortion

[Rudel_chw]

7 minutes ago, audiodistortion said:

An i7-930 and mine's an i7-980X

Neither support AVX instructions...

 

Both are from 2010 ... yes, it could be hardware incompatibility ... anyway, 14 years is a big lapse for a processor, maybe an upgrade is needed.

[audiodistortion]

3 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Both are from 2010 ... yes, it could be hardware incompatibility ... anyway, 14 years is a big lapse for a processor, maybe an upgrade is needed.

All other modules work just fine, so no. But thanks.

 

If it is what I suspect, ED need to update the shop page spec.

Edited June 23, 2023 by audiodistortion

[Warez27]

I am in the same boat.

Unfortunately F-15E requires CPU with AVX instructions set and will be unplayable on older PC or until devs patch it.

[AhSoul]

We should not be potentially limiting performance by catering to ancient hardware. At some point, upgrades are needed.

Edited June 23, 2023 by AhSoul

[audiodistortion]

1 hour ago, AhSoul said:

We should not be potentially limiting performance by catering to ancient hardware. At some point, upgrades are needed.

 

I agree, but they also need to tell us if they've increased the minimum requirement to run it.

[AhSoul]

Just now, audiodistortion said:

I agree, but they also need to tell us if they've increased the minimum requirement to run it.

Oh yes totally agree there! I was more talking about the person wanting the devs to patch it to work on older kit.

[actually_fred]

Just an anecdote: the gains from requiring modern processors can be ridiculously good in surprising situations.

In my previous job, I retargeted a C++ app from Nehalem (Intel 2008 - SSE 4.2 but no AVX) to Sandybridge (Intel 2011 - adds AVX and CLMUL) got a 19x speedup in real-world tests on the same hardware. I was expecting maybe a 20% reduction in runtime, not a 95% one.

That said, huge +1 on it should be clear on the product page

[Lock-Os]

Been having this same problem too Every other aircraft works fine. But the F-15E CTD's on desktop when I load ANY mission with it in it.

dcs.log

[allen6090]

I was curious to see this in the DCS log. have any bearing on my current issue? Please advise. Have also noted the aged ops system to, per others comments above.

2023-06-24 03:33:56.795 ERROR   APP (Main): Error: Unit [F-15ESE]: Corrupt damage model.

dcs.log dcs.log.old

[DerVulf]

After looking at the product page again, I'm not seeing anything about any special requirements regarding the CPU.

My machine runs every other module just fine so what reason would I have to believe it wouldnt run this one.

Feeling like I got ripped off right now.

[Warez27]

Official DCS minimum CPU requirements:  Intel Core i3 2.8 ГГц or AMD FX, both of them have AVX on board.

Edited June 24, 2023 by Warez27

[Despayre]

100% agree it should have been mentioned, however, as pointed out, those CPU's are over 13 years old, and flight sims are known to want the best hardware they can possibly have, so this isn't really a surprise (generally, not specifically here, speaking), and I get that "shock moment" when you can't take out the "new shiny thing (tm)", but it's not super-reasonable to ask a state-of-the-art flight sim, and it's very latest edition, to dial things back so that 13 yr old hardware can run it too... or at least, I wouldn't expect it to jump to the front of the line for fixes, while it's still in EA and lots of functions aren't there yet.

Still, bummer, I get it... 

[actually_fred]

7 hours ago, Warez27 said:

Official DCS minimum CPU requirements:  Intel Core i3 2.8 ГГц or AMD FX, both of them have AVX on board.

The first generation of Core i3 do not have AVX, for example the 2.93ghz i3-530 -  https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/46472/intel-core-i3530-processor-4m-cache-2-93-ghz/specifications.html

[AhSoul]

I genuinely am amazed people are trying to run DCS (or any current 3D game on ancient kit), and even more so that it's vaguely playable.

[audiodistortion]

44 minutes ago, AhSoul said:

I genuinely am amazed people are trying to run DCS (or any current 3D game on ancient kit), and even more so that it's vaguely playable.

My ancient i7-980X still runs like a champ! best investment I ever made.

[Lock-Os]

For me, I got:

11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700K @ 3.60GHz, 3600 Mhz,
32 gb Ram
3060Ti