HP Reverb G2 V2 clarity

[Marshallman]

Anyone finding it clearer through the ReverbG2 with more space from the lens??

I pulled back from the normal position about the depth of the current mask and it was significantly clearer.

Now looking for a spacer or another mask to trial that  or other suggestions?

[A.F.]

It may be a stupid question:
Is it possible that your eyesight is not so good anymore?

[Marshallman]

Its fine!... I notice my eye lashes are touching the lenses, feels too close for me.

 

[plott1964]

The G2 comes with a plastic spacer with magnets. Are you using that?

[Marshallman]

Yes thanks.. I have improved the clarity  since. Combining XRtoolkit, Nvidia settings.

Sorted effectively.

[Ghostmaker]

On 9/29/2023 at 7:25 PM, Marshallman said:

Yes thanks.. I have improved the clarity  since. Combining XRtoolkit, Nvidia settings.

Sorted effectively.

Can i ask what settings you changed to clear the reverb up? Im in a similar place. Im running a 4090 system. 7800x3d and 32gb. With hp reverb.

[Jive]

Something pretty nice is using Quadviews by mbucchia https://github.com/mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated/wiki
With a 4090 you can probably set the outer as a PD of 1.0 then try the inner at something like 2.0

I have a 3080ti so it's not quite enough horsepower for me to run it consistently but it looks super nice

[Marshallman]

5 hours ago, Ghostmaker said:

Can i ask what settings you changed to clear the reverb up? Im in a similar place. Im running a 4090 system. 7800x3d and 32gb. With hp reverb.

You can... I posted here... Biggest change I got was dropping to 60 hz in the reverb app. TRy this to start and let me know Ive done a few adjustments since.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/334462-dlss-vr/?do=findComment&comment=5325674

 

4 hours ago, Jive said:

Something pretty nice is using Quadviews by mbucchia https://github.com/mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated/wiki
With a 4090 you can probably set the outer as a PD of 1.0 then try the inner at something like 2.0

I have a 3080ti so it's not quite enough horsepower for me to run it consistently but it looks super nice

You change the settings in OpenXR toolkit?

[Ghostmaker]

4 hours ago, Marshallman said:

You can... I posted here... Biggest change I got was dropping to 60 hz in the reverb app. TRy this to start and let me know Ive done a few adjustments since.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/334462-dlss-vr/?do=findComment&comment=5325674

 

You change the settings in OpenXR toolkit?

Cheers mate ill try changing to 60hz, i assume this is in the windows mixed reality vr setting area. The cockpit seems clear but when flying most is fairly ok but not what i was expecting from a 2160 per eye vr headset. My 1440 screen looks ok though

[Marshallman]

1 hour ago, Ghostmaker said:

Cheers mate ill try changing to 60hz, i assume this is in the windows mixed reality vr setting area. The cockpit seems clear but when flying most is fairly ok but not what i was expecting from a 2160 per eye vr headset. My 1440 screen looks ok though

Yes in mixed reality Portal Headset settings (Bottom left lower corner, three dots) gives you option of 90hz or 60 hz... Selected  Best visual Quality - 4320x2160 best Quality and 60hz framerate

Also theOpen XR tools for Windows mixed reaiity ....I have recently set the Rendering settings scale  to150%

Still tweaking but I am getting smooth flight on the F16, Spitfire, Huey, Apache...which is heavy on FPS.

Next upgrade is to 64G ram which I saw on another thread... is probably needed for online servers, as some can use 32g

[Jive]

6 hours ago, Marshallman said:

You can... I posted here... Biggest change I got was dropping to 60 hz in the reverb app. TRy this to start and let me know Ive done a few adjustments since.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/334462-dlss-vr/?do=findComment&comment=5325674

 

You change the settings in OpenXR toolkit?

Quadviews is a separate addition to OXRTK. It's worth having a read through the page I linked, there's a config file you can edit if you wanted something like the PD I mentioned there. Essentially you'd be rendering your outer/peripheral view at 100% and then the centre at 200% (PD 2.0). It looks super sharp. Worth experimenting with imo

[Marshallman]

On 11/22/2023 at 10:36 AM, Jive said:

Quadviews is a separate addition to OXRTK. It's worth having a read through the page I linked, there's a config file you can edit if you wanted something like the PD I mentioned there. Essentially you'd be rendering your outer/peripheral view at 100% and then the centre at 200% (PD 2.0). It looks super sharp. Worth experimenting with imo

I downloaded this then read the wiki and  tried to understand what I needed to do, but im a bit lost at this stage when it comes to writing lua files.

[Brun]

On 11/21/2023 at 10:52 PM, Jive said:

Something pretty nice is using Quadviews by mbucchia https://github.com/mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated/wiki
With a 4090 you can probably set the outer as a PD of 1.0 then try the inner at something like 2.0

I have a 3080ti so it's not quite enough horsepower for me to run it consistently but it looks super nice

For a headset without eye tracking, what's the difference between this and the fixed foveated rendering in OpenXR toolkit?

[Joch1955]

yes, I have a G2, Quadview does not work on the regular G2 because it does not have eye tracking, but you can try turning on Fixed Foveated Rendering through Open XR toolkit, it may give you some extra FPS without noticeably affecting image quality.

60 vs 90 HZ does not really affect the image, the G2 is designed for 90 HZ and that is what you should leave it at. If you do not have the horsepower to consistently run at 90 fps, you can try Motion Reprojection. In DCS, it's side effects are pretty much unnoticeable. I run with MR on, FPS is locked at 45 fps which allows me to bump up a lot of the in game graphic settings.

The only real way to increase image clarity to increase Pixel Density and/or the the native resolution, although obviously you need the HP. I have 3070ti so leave it at PD = 1.0 and the native resolution. I can read all the cockpit instruments clearly which is what I care about.

You can also try turning off all FSAA, which will make the cockpit instruments clearer. You will get jaggies outside the cockpit, although that is only really noticeable close to the ground. DLAA is also good, smooths out the jaggies with only a small hit on FPS.

[The_Nephilim]

22 hours ago, Joch1955 said:

yes, I have a G2, Quadview does not work on the regular G2 because it does not have eye tracking, but you can try turning on Fixed Foveated Rendering through Open XR toolkit, it may give you some extra FPS without noticeably affecting image quality.

60 vs 90 HZ does not really affect the image, the G2 is designed for 90 HZ and that is what you should leave it at. If you do not have the horsepower to consistently run at 90 fps, you can try Motion Reprojection. In DCS, it's side effects are pretty much unnoticeable. I run with MR on, FPS is locked at 45 fps which allows me to bump up a lot of the in game graphic settings.

The only real way to increase image clarity to increase Pixel Density and/or the the native resolution, although obviously you need the HP. I have 3070ti so leave it at PD = 1.0 and the native resolution. I can read all the cockpit instruments clearly which is what I care about.

You can also try turning off all FSAA, which will make the cockpit instruments clearer. You will get jaggies outside the cockpit, although that is only really noticeable close to the ground. DLAA is also good, smooths out the jaggies with only a small hit on FPS.

ummm Quadview works in the regular G2 even without eyetracking..  running at 60 hz is better if your PC is not able to run a 90fps and you dont see the flicker @60hz..

[Joch1955]

8 hours ago, The_Nephilim said:

ummm Quadview works in the regular G2 even without eyetracking..  

well no, there seems to be a lot of confusion on that part. QuadView only works with HMDs that have eye tracking. If you force it on a HMD like the regular G2, you just get the same FFR already available in the OpenXR tool kit:

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This software lets you use Eye-Tracked Foveated Rendering (sometimes referred to as Dynamic Foveated Rendering) with your Pimax Crystal, Meta Quest Pro, and other headsets supporting eye tracking via OpenXR in games using the quad views rendering technique like Digital Combat Simulation (DCS) and Pavlov VR. If your headset does not embed an eye tracking device, you will be getting Fixed Foveated Rendering instead.

Home · mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated Wiki · GitHub

[The_Nephilim]

3 hours ago, Joch1955 said:

well no, there seems to be a lot of confusion on that part. QuadView only works with HMDs that have eye tracking. If you force it on a HMD like the regular G2, you just get the same FFR already available in the OpenXR tool kit:

Home · mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated Wiki · GitHub

well yes it works like I said without the eye tracking.. from what I read on the github it is a bit better then the Open XR toolkit..

Edited November 29, 2023 by The_Nephilim

[slowmover]

I am running my G2 at 60Hz it has a small flickering but quality is way much better

 

[Joch1955]

9 hours ago, The_Nephilim said:

well yes it works like I said without the eye tracking.. from what I read on the github it is a bit better then the Open XR toolkit..

 

Not sure why you keep claiming that after I provided you with the pertinent link to the website, but maybe we can get @mbucchia to comment on whether there is any benefit to try to use QuadView if you have a headset that does not support eye tracking like the plainjane Reverb G2.

[The_Nephilim]

have a Merry Christmas..

8 hours ago, Joch1955 said:

Not sure why you keep claiming that after I provided you with the pertinent link to the website, but maybe we can get @mbucchia to comment on whether there is any benefit to try to use QuadView if you have a headset that does not support eye tracking like the plainjane Reverb G2.

 

[Jive]

19 hours ago, Joch1955 said:

Not sure why you keep claiming that after I provided you with the pertinent link to the website, but maybe we can get @mbucchia to comment on whether there is any benefit to try to use QuadView if you have a headset that does not support eye tracking like the plainjane Reverb G2.

Quadviews works with a standard G2. You can try it out for yourself very easily.

The benefit being that you can set the config file to have whatever PD you want in the outer and inner ring. In OpenXR Toolkit you can only set the size and quality reduction. So in Quadviews you could set your inner PD to 2.0 for example and have an extra sharp center without applying that PD to your entire screen.

[Marshallman]

1 hour ago, Jive said:

Quadviews works with a standard G2. You can try it out for yourself very easily.

The benefit being that you can set the config file to have whatever PD you want in the outer and inner ring. In OpenXR Toolkit you can only set the size and quality reduction. So in Quadviews you could set your inner PD to 2.0 for example and have an extra sharp center without applying that PD to your entire screen.

Can you post a copy of your config file at some stage please?

regards

[Jive]

13 hours ago, Marshallman said:

Can you post a copy of your config file at some stage please?

regards

I'm not actually using it at the moment, I have a 3080ti and although I really liked a high PD in the focus area it doesn't have the horsepower to keep the performance I need. Also I've been recording VR footage so I need a more uniform image quality.

That said, here's the link with the configuration options including the location for the cfg file https://github.com/mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated/wiki/Advanced-Configuration

With a 4090 I think it's worth trying out something like 

peripheral_multiplier=1.0

focus_multiplier=2.0

 

It looks great 

 

[Marshallman]

Brilliant thankyou!!

[Comante]

Quadview is a very interesting thing, I had to mess up the settings to understand if it was working.. it definitely works on the standard G2, you just need to find the right balance to not introduce stutters (if you are on a old GPU like me (1080)).
The only problem I noticed is that artifact are more severe in fast movement, and helo rotor mess reprojection more than without this options. I need to try it paired with turbo.