R-27T/ET Tactics - How to use correctly?

[Irisz]

27 minutes ago, Ramius007 said:

No matter what you do with current ingame FC3 weapons, it doesnt turn blue vs red scenario in balanced experiance past 1990 era, better missiles alone dont help much with worse situational awerness and worse radar, Flankers in DCS have sirious transonic drag issues that look like a bug as well. What we really need is modern FF or medium fidelity Russian or Chinese hi performance jet, that is more advanced than announced by ED 9.12 Fulcrum. 1992+ semi realistic scenarios on Caucasus or Kola maps are dead horse currently without giving some F-teens to red team, for me personally it's a big turn of alone, but it's getting of topic

 

I did it just for myself, I can't do more on the forum to make Flanker and Fulcrum a bit better, the Digital NATO Combat Simulator brings more money to ED! We are just target drones! I feel sorry for those people who don't dare to criticize ED and blindly follow them no matter what they do!

A better future, comrades!

[Blackhawk NC]

As a REDFOR player, I think the R-27ET is the be best REDFOR missile in the game. The SD-10 is good but it seems that sometimes they make changes that affect it and the changes are  never for the better. Using the IRST in EO mode, the Flanker can do some real damage even when out numbered or outgunned. When AWACS is effective and some terrain cover is available, a Flanker can slaughter modern BLUFOR jets.  IRST can also be used to also launch R-27ER missiles with little warning to the victim. Radar will automatically activate just prior to launch to guide the missile, just hold the trigger a second longer. The Flanker does need modernization so it can carry a fox 3 missile. Some servers do include the PL-12 or the SD-10 on the J-11A, but it is a work around.  REDFOR needs a more modern fighter and it simply isn't going to get one. But don't underestimate the Flanker or the R-27ET. They are a pretty good combo when employed with stealth, effective notching and good situational awareness.

[Irisz]

2 hours ago, Blackhawk NC said:

As a REDFOR player, I think the R-27ET is the be best REDFOR missile in the game. The SD-10 is good but it seems that sometimes they make changes that affect it and the changes are  never for the better. Using the IRST in EO mode, the Flanker can do some real damage even when out numbered or outgunned. When AWACS is effective and some terrain cover is available, a Flanker can slaughter modern BLUFOR jets.  IRST can also be used to also launch R-27ER missiles with little warning to the victim. Radar will automatically activate just prior to launch to guide the missile, just hold the trigger a second longer. The Flanker does need modernization so it can carry a fox 3 missile. Some servers do include the PL-12 or the SD-10 on the J-11A, but it is a work around.  REDFOR needs a more modern fighter and it simply isn't going to get one. But don't underestimate the Flanker or the R-27ET. They are a pretty good combo when employed with stealth, effective notching and good situational awareness.

OLS-27 and KOLS and all infra red homing heads will not be able to see through the cloud in the future, so we will be weaker in this regard as well, so don't be happy!

Edited June 10, 2024 by Irisz

[GGTharos]

11 hours ago, Irisz said:

Overall, I would like to make forum members aware that if someone searches or talks about R-27 missiles marked 1 on this forum, it is not about the OLD Soviet missiles. So in the case of ED, if you use these missiles as information about what it can do, you create a fantasy missile in DCS World. Because the Su-27 - Su-33 MiG-29 missiles use OLD Soviet Vympel missiles manufactured around 1990. However, if ED uses the data of the current EXPORT missiles, the homing head of the missile is from 2024, and its export engine is from 1990! Su-27SK weakened manual Export not oroginal and better Su-27S manual! MiG-29 9-29B Export manual (weakened export) not original and better Soviet MiG-29 9-12 or 9-13 or 9-13S product!

This is the problem, that's why the range of the missiles is reduced!

The '1' series of missiles are export weapons with a simpler (probably not very effective) ECCM system.  The rocket, warhead and guidance modules are otherwise identical IIRC.  Don't waste your time dreaming up of some sort of super secret super-superior soviet configuration.

[draconus]

On 6/10/2024 at 6:15 AM, Irisz said:

Overall, I would like to make forum members aware that if someone searches or talks about R-27 missiles marked 1 on this forum, it is not about the OLD Soviet missiles. So in the case of ED, if you use these missiles as information about what it can do, you create a fantasy missile in DCS World. Because the Su-27 - Su-33 MiG-29 missiles use OLD Soviet Vympel missiles manufactured around 1990. However, if ED uses the data of the current EXPORT missiles, the homing head of the missile is from 2024, and its export engine is from 1990! Su-27SK weakened manual Export not oroginal and better Su-27S manual! MiG-29 9-29B Export manual (weakened export) not original and better Soviet MiG-29 9-12 or 9-13 or 9-13S product!

This is the problem, that's why the range of the missiles is reduced!

You've been answered by the devs already:

yet still stirring the pot?