witwas Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I can buy a quest pro here in the area for half the price, have been using a G2 for year and a half now and I am looking to ‘upgrade’. I was actually saving up to maybe buy a varjo aero or pimax cristal by the end of the year. But now the quest pro came on the radar….. What would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, witwas said: I can buy a quest pro here in the area for half the price, have been using a G2 for year and a half now and I am looking to ‘upgrade’. I was actually saving up to maybe buy a varjo aero or pimax cristal by the end of the year. But now the quest pro came on the radar….. What would you do? Aero is fantastic for sure. If you have the funds though without issue and would like one now certainly Quest Pro seems to be pretty decent. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahogephilia Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 that will be giving you great VR experience. However, it would be good to wait for Quest 3 (27SEP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ahogephilia said: that will be giving you great VR experience. However, it would be good to wait for Quest 3 (27SEP) For DCS I would only consider a headset with eye tracking currently to handle dynamic foveated rendering unless cost prohibitive. It makes such a huge difference in performance. Edited September 13, 2023 by dburne 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witwas Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 The pro version has eye tracking, and it works with dcs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, witwas said: The pro version has eye tracking, and it works with dcs? Yes. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahogephilia Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, dburne said: For DCS I would only consider a headset with eye tracking currently to handle dynamic foveated rendering unless cost prohibitive. It makes such a huge difference in performance. I agree. but, cheap and Resolution is increased by 30% Quest 3 may be able to pass-through real objects like XR-3, as AR/MR functions will be improved. (maybe, maybe, maybe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Ahogephilia said: Quest 3 may be able to pass-through real objects like XR-3, as AR/MR functions will be improved. (maybe, maybe, maybe) Ok but I am curious what would that feature mean to a flight simmer? When I put on my headset for some combat flight simming, I want to be fully immersed visually in what I am doing in that world. Like I am actually there. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahogephilia Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, dburne said: Ok but I am curious what would that feature mean to a flight simmer? When I put on my headset for some combat flight simming, I want to be fully immersed visually in what I am doing in that world. Like I am actually there. VR flights biggest problem is that reference documents are difficult to refer. We usually use an overlay app called "OPEN KNEEBOARD", but if you prefer real paper documents, "improved passthrough" can help. That's actually key feature of the XR-3. There is a technical potential in Quest 3. but, It's not official though. Edited September 13, 2023 by Ahogephilia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Ahogephilia said: VR flights biggest problem is that reference documents are difficult to refer. We usually use an overlay app called "OPEN KNEEBOARD", but if you prefer real paper documents, "improved passthrough" can help. That's actually key feature of the XR-3. There is a technical potential in Quest 3. but, It's not official though. Yeah Quest 3 is not even out yet. Ok I get what you are saying, I just use the regular Kneeboard. I use Kneeboard Builder to import my files into the kneeboard and view them in the headset as needed. For instance on using say a certain weapon in the Hornet, I have those particular kneeboard pages ready at the go for reference viewing in the headset if needed. Works pretty good for me. Start up procedures per aircraft I do the same, etc. I have flown several campaign in the Hornet, Spit, and now working on some in P-51 and have not needed to raise headset to look at anything. Edited September 13, 2023 by dburne 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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witwas Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 Just bought a Varjo aero since there was a massive price drop. Anyway thanks for the advice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, witwas said: Just bought a Varjo aero since there was a massive price drop. Anyway thanks for the advice Congrats! Wait till you see eye tracked DFR at work in DCS with the Aero. Edited September 21, 2023 by dburne 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealDCSpilot Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I would wait: 2 i9 13900K @5.5GHz, Z790 Gigabyte Aorus Master, RTX4090 Waterforce, 64 GB DDR5 @5600, Pico 4, HOTAS & Rudder: all Virpil with Rhino FFB base made by VPforce, DCS: all modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat388th Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 3:42 AM, witwas said: I can buy a quest pro here in the area for half the price, have been using a G2 for year and a half now and I am looking to ‘upgrade’. I was actually saving up to maybe buy a varjo aero or pimax cristal by the end of the year. But now the quest pro came on the radar….. What would you do? I just pulled the trigger on a used quest pro on ebay it fit my price range. Has 30day return if I don't like it will be upgrading from Q2 curious to see how much of a difference the eye tracking will be and clarity compared to my Q2 once everything is dialed in. J 1 Ryzen7 5800X3D. 64 gb ram, 6950XT 16gb, Winwing Orion F18, MFG Crosswind Rudder, 42 inch lg tv, Quest PRO USN VF31 F14A AE2 1985-1989 CV 59 NAS Oceana IL ANG 183FW/170FS F16 Block 30 Big Mouth 1989-2006 Full time tech Retired E8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, Tomcat388th said: I just pulled the trigger on a used quest pro on ebay it fit my price range. Has 30day return if I don't like it will be upgrading from Q2 curious to see how much of a difference the eye tracking will be and clarity compared to my Q2 once everything is dialed in. J It is pretty huge. I have Aero but have seen similar reports with Quest Pro. 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyamn Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 11:50 AM, dburne said: For DCS I would only consider a headset with eye tracking currently to handle dynamic foveated rendering unless cost prohibitive. It makes such a huge difference in performance. +1 the pro is fantastic for exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witwas Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 Received my varjo aero yesterday, you can’t compare it to a g2 or index. It’s almost as sharp as a pancake screen. struggling a bit to get the eye tracking to work but if dialled in it will be fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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