Vekkinho Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 The pilot: Tomcatz already do that. The new parashute and the pilot+K36 is in the great new Mig-29 mod by Tomcatz. And I have no experience with the human body animation but if necessary I'll try it. Thanks the link Vekkinho. Oh yes, I forgot about that! Now we only need a version with russian helmet! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Few Croatian Airforce MiG-21 videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFjkXPgxF3w&feature=related [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
beczl Posted March 17, 2009 Author Posted March 17, 2009 @Vekkinho: Thanks the videos.:-) I try to find a video for Mig-21 engine/afterburner effect and the movement of the convergent variable nozzle. But it's too hard to find a good one. @Zei: It'll an another bis as I guess.:-)
shaggy Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I can wait for this outstanding piece of work! . 2 of my Mig-21 art works i made some time ago. Just to boost everyone even more into this project :) BW Shaggy Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
shaggy Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Stop Hijacking beczl´s thread. Open up your own if you want to show your model. It'll "изд 75" :) Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
beczl Posted March 17, 2009 Author Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) I can wait for this outstanding piece of work! . 2 of my Mig-21 art works i made some time ago. Just to boost everyone even more into this project :) Nice work shaggy. P.S: I'll looking for a texture artist for this Mig. :smilewink: It'll "изд 75" :) It'll be nice. But in other hand, im quite flustered at the moments. Why did it happen the same situation with me almost every time? (For example B-20 rocket pods.) Before I have a decision to work on a Mig-21 bis (Model 75) I searhed across all of the Lockon forums and I recognised nobody working on the Mig-21 bis model. My point of view if somebody start a new project it should be better to make a new thread with this subject to prevent this situation as we see. I used to make a lot of models and textures in FS2000, CFS2, IL2 in the past and I had no problem with this. But the time's changed as I recognise. But this or similar post without any further comment is very annoying to me. I work so hard and I spend at least 300hour from my freetime to work on this mode. Now i'm very-very close to reject my project. :( Edited March 17, 2009 by beczl
shaggy Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Dont reject it your model is by far the best Mig-21 there is! the others can F*** O** and start there own thread, but man your models are so great and i fully support you. dont stop please, and i would be honored to paint this beutiful aircraft Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
OldCrow Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Very nice work beczl! You are very talanted, and u work very fast! I dont know exactly what the point is with people posting their own models in this thred, in my oppinion, beczl's mig is the best one. Keep it up!:thumbup: 1 [sIGPIC]http://www.virtualredarrows.com/member_sigs/vra2012_crow.png[/sIGPIC]
VireVolte_tigrou Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Yes, you're a real 3D guru, Beczl. Keep going, you have my full support, dude ! 1
Vekkinho Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Don't stop your 3D modelling Beczl! I'll look for some mig-21bis afterburner videos, or if i can't find one I can record it with miniDV! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BrumTx Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Beczl, Please don't let other idiots stop you from making this mod, from what we have seen already you are very very good at making them. PLEASE CONTINUE Remember the 346 Fire Fighters, Medics & Police who died on 9-11....... Selective memory is a wonderful thing, especially when certain posts simply disappear into the ether never to be seen again, unless I have a copy of the original post copied and pasted into word documents and saved .... just in case :) Am I an abusive idiot ? Due to physical incapacity my Wife types my post's for me
Ulrich Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) shaggy, I recommend you to stop your agressive talk to other members. Beczl, the best way to build a good 3D model which will meet our requirements is to contact Coyote. Otherwise this model has no chances to be used in DCS officially. Edited March 17, 2009 by Ulrich
shaggy Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Ullrich I was just referring to people in general not an individual. Read the post correctly. Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
Gunja Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I've seen similar situations with two or more racing sim fans making the same model of the car. It usually ends up so that neither gets done (published) :( Hope it's not gonna be the case here.
beczl Posted March 17, 2009 Author Posted March 17, 2009 @All: Thanks guys, I cooled down, don't worry about it. Show must go on. :joystick: @Ulrich: Thanks. I already do that. @shaggy: Thank you in anticipation. @Vekkinho: Thanks it'll very usefull for me. 1
flanker1 Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 beczl, pelase don´t stop your mod - i love to see the effort. . . it´s a hard work and a hard way to go. . . with good days and bad days. but at the end, we will have the 21bis - my - and not only my - dream since lofc and the flanker series from ed exists. . . hey guys, i will have no problem if it is "only" a mode - and no official addon from ed. . . in 3 words: i don´t care. . . beczl: let me know if i can support you in anyway. . . regards flanker1
Vekkinho Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 1) Here's the afterburner animation but it's pretty far from the cameraman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MekoxJfE2Q 2) Nice AB pic at 3:25 3) MiG-21F-13 (type74), some interesting shots of nose cone and control surfaces movement at 1:10-1:20: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH_lklsTCpw 4) Here some pics: Might be useful for damage model: More photos taken during overhaul: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2728698030061271690vjuaiW http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2560204520061271690WIErlU http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2183127850061271690pVkWjn http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2661984940061271690DYsZno http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2032547860061271690qUhYKn http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2573485600061271690ulTVua http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2694720750061271690IoJZBK 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/topalovicdj/mig-21pfmL-1422722.jpg [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I suggest this Afterburner cone 3D model to be used with MiG-21bis as it looks almost exactly as the real MiG-21 burner: http://www.lockonfiles.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=862#dl [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Majesco Posted March 18, 2009 Posted March 18, 2009 Beczl, i don't know how to draw skin so i hope in the skin pack of your MiG-21 model, you could make 1 skin more for the Vietnamese AF MiG-21 like this :D Here' re 2 pictures of an old VAF MiG-21PFM #5020 with 12 stars on the nose at Air defense-Airforce Museum in Hanoi, near my home
beczl Posted March 18, 2009 Author Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) @Vekkinho: Thanks for the vids And the pics. The disassembled engine is wonderfull. :thumbup: If somebody interested a Mig-21 check this webpage: It's consist almost all "abandoned" Hungarian Mig-21. http://www.hunavia.hu/ @Majesco: If my model is reach alpha stage I hope we will start the texturing together with shaggy and one other hungarian guy. We planned the Hungarian, Russian, skin pack. If it possible I try to make a Vietnamise skin for you!, but I can't promise. my plan is to release the paint scheme in psd, so everybody able to create own skin. Edited March 18, 2009 by beczl
Vekkinho Posted March 18, 2009 Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) [quote=beczl;657615@Vekkinho: Thanks for the vids And the pics. The disassembled engine is wonderfull. :thumbup: quote] NP! Thanks for the http://www.hunavia.hu/ link. It's awsome! Edited March 18, 2009 by Vekkinho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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