CTD When Entering WW2 Normandy Mission

[Dawgboy]

PROBLEM:  As subject describes.

STEPS SO FAR:  I've performed a cleanup and repair, per the instructions. I've uninstalled and reinstalled Normandy 2.0, and I've cleaned out the FXO and Metashaders2 directories.  I've deleted all mods.  I've also sent crash logs via the built-in tool each time it crashes.

BACKGROUND:  Each time I enter, DCS crashes to desktop when I get to the first menu to either select a seat or proceed to the mission.  This doesn't happen with any other maps except Normandy 2.0, and it's happened from the beginning of Normandy 2.0.  It's unflyable for me, except it occasionally allows me to run the Train Strafe instant action mission in the P47 over Normandy.  This happens in both VR and nonVR.

Here is the latest log file. 

Any ideas about the issue?...there are errors in the log, but I have no idea how to interpret them. 

UPDATE:  I was able to do a private MP session with my flying buddy, and no CTD.  We were flying P47s on Normandy 2.0, over the UK, cold start.  If I were to host on my end, I get a CTD.  Don't know if this helps. 

Thanks in advance.

db

dcs.log

Edited December 2, 2023 by Dawgboy
added VR comment and punctuation; provided an update

[Dawgboy]

@NineLine are you the triage agent for this subject?  TIA!

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

sorry for late reply. 

Below are some errors caused by scripts you are using, it is worth removing them and running a slow repair. 

Error
bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
Line 53

Script
.\Scripts\RPC.lua

Error
attempt to index upvalue 'v_Connection' (a nil value)
Line 109

Script
C:\Users\danny\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts/DCS_Volanta.lua

Error
bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
Line 53

Script
./Scripts/RPC.lua

Hot plug Events
Disable hot plug in your CONTROLS section.

Error
UPNP failed
Port 10308 

There is a GPU-related error also
Remove any overclocking from your GPU if any.
Uninstall your GPU driver with DDU and install a clean one.

let us know if it helps

[Dawgboy]

On 12/13/2023 at 9:41 AM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, 

sorry for late reply. 

Below are some errors caused by scripts you are using, it is worth removing them and running a slow repair. 

Error
bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
Line 53

Script
.\Scripts\RPC.lua

Error
attempt to index upvalue 'v_Connection' (a nil value)
Line 109

Script
C:\Users\danny\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts/DCS_Volanta.lua

Error
bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
Line 53

Script
./Scripts/RPC.lua

Hot plug Events
Disable hot plug in your CONTROLS section.

Error
UPNP failed
Port 10308 

There is a GPU-related error also
Remove any overclocking from your GPU if any.
Uninstall your GPU driver with DDU and install a clean one.

let us know if it helps

@BIGNEWY

No joy.  Here's the log after all of the steps except UPNP failed...don't know what to do with that, but not flying an MP mission...stand alone.

UPDATE:  Also, I don't know what part of your instructions did it, but SRS was no longer working with DCS.

Thanks,

db

dcs.log

Edited December 20, 2023 by Dawgboy
Added SRS detachment after following guidelines.

[Dawgboy]

@BIGNEWY

Ok, since your previous guidance didn't work, I decided to uninstall DCS, DCSBIOS, and SRS and begin from nothing.  So, during this test, I submitted a crash report with the following, with more added here, which was conducted with a completely new DCS install:
- No SRS installed.
- No config changes in any menus.
- No devices changed via the control settings.
- No VR, only a regular monitor.
- No overclocking on GPU and/or CPU...raw BIOS.
- No TrackIR.
- Running DCS as administrator.

It crashes when the aircraft picture loads...not long after that point.  

Normandy is unusable for me.  What is going on???!!!???

dcs.log

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, from your latest log here is some advice

Errors
There is a GPU-related error
Remove any overclocking from your GPU if any.
Uninstall your GPU driver with DDU and install a clean one.

Change your pagefile to at least 32768 MB (initial size)

Tuning Tips
 Turn down Anisotropic Filtering.
Set Preload Radius to max. 60000.
Enable Full Screen mode.
Set Water to Low.

[Dawgboy]

19 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, from your latest log here is some advice

Errors
There is a GPU-related error
Remove any overclocking from your GPU if any.
Uninstall your GPU driver with DDU and install a clean one.

Change your pagefile to at least 32768 MB (initial size)

Tuning Tips
 Turn down Anisotropic Filtering.
Set Preload Radius to max. 60000.
Enable Full Screen mode.
Set Water to Low.

@BIGNEWY
I have already used DDU to clean old GPU driver and installed the latest.  What type of error is the GPU throwing? Why do other maps work fine?  I used to have similar issues with the Marianas map, but those went away for whatever reason.

For this test, I changed the pagefile to your recommended setting.  I'm testing the changes one at a time, cumulative.

Thanks.

dcs.log

Edited December 20, 2023 by Dawgboy
added info about other maps working fine.

[BIGNEWY]

your page file is still set to low Pagefile: 4864 MB

take a look here 

the error with the gpu crash is below

23-12-20 16:26:40.186 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (4972): failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:40.186 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (4972): Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:190
2023-12-20 16:26:40.186 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (4972): failed to create index buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:40.189 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (5088): failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:40.189 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (5088): Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:190
2023-12-20 16:26:40.189 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (5088): failed to create index buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:40.192 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2023-12-20 16:26:41.732 WARNING LOG (14480): 8 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2023-12-20 16:26:41.732 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:41.736 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-12-20 16:26:41.742 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:41.744 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-12-20 16:26:41.750 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:41.752 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-12-20 16:26:41.757 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:41.759 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-12-20 16:26:41.765 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2023-12-20 16:26:41.767 INFO    EDCORE (6752): try to write dump information
2023-12-20 16:26:41.771 INFO    EDCORE (6752): # -------------- 20231220-162642 --------------
2023-12-20 16:26:41.773 INFO    EDCORE (6752): DCS/2.9.2.49629 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
2023-12-20 16:26:41.775 INFO    EDCORE (6752): C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2023-12-20 16:26:41.776 INFO    EDCORE (6752): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffe11d99c10 00:00000000
2023-12-20 16:26:41.778 INFO    EDCORE (6752): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'F:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'danny'
2023-12-20 16:26:41.781 INFO    EDCORE (6752): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1
2023-12-20 16:26:41.782 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000129c10 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x10770
2023-12-20 16:26:41.784 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x000000000002f9d1 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x16231
2023-12-20 16:26:41.784 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x000000000008128b (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x6BE4B
2023-12-20 16:26:41.784 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x00000000000ecfac (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x4C78C
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x00000000000346cf (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x54F
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x00000000000247aa (edCore): ed::make_render_thread_tasks + 0x1A
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x000000000013db36 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x19646
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x00000000001298a6 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x53B6
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000140fd2 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0x13D2
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000033751 (edCore): ed::thread::_get_current_thread_id + 0x71
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000021bb2 (ucrtbase): _configthreadlocale + 0x92
2023-12-20 16:26:41.786 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000017344 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14

 

[Dawgboy]

3 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

your page file is still set to low Pagefile: 4864 MB

take a look here 

the error with the gpu crash is below

23-12-20 16:26:40.186 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (4972): failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:40.186 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (4972): Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:190
2023-12-20 16:26:40.186 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (4972): failed to create index buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:40.189 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (5088): failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:40.189 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (5088): Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:190
2023-12-20 16:26:40.189 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (5088): failed to create index buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:40.192 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2023-12-20 16:26:41.732 WARNING LOG (14480): 8 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2023-12-20 16:26:41.732 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:41.736 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-12-20 16:26:41.742 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:41.744 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-12-20 16:26:41.750 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:41.752 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-12-20 16:26:41.757 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-12-20 16:26:41.759 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-12-20 16:26:41.765 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (6752): DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2023-12-20 16:26:41.767 INFO    EDCORE (6752): try to write dump information
2023-12-20 16:26:41.771 INFO    EDCORE (6752): # -------------- 20231220-162642 --------------
2023-12-20 16:26:41.773 INFO    EDCORE (6752): DCS/2.9.2.49629 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
2023-12-20 16:26:41.775 INFO    EDCORE (6752): C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2023-12-20 16:26:41.776 INFO    EDCORE (6752): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffe11d99c10 00:00000000
2023-12-20 16:26:41.778 INFO    EDCORE (6752): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'F:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'danny'
2023-12-20 16:26:41.781 INFO    EDCORE (6752): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1
2023-12-20 16:26:41.782 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000129c10 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x10770
2023-12-20 16:26:41.784 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x000000000002f9d1 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x16231
2023-12-20 16:26:41.784 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x000000000008128b (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x6BE4B
2023-12-20 16:26:41.784 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x00000000000ecfac (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x4C78C
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x00000000000346cf (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x54F
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x00000000000247aa (edCore): ed::make_render_thread_tasks + 0x1A
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x000000000013db36 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x19646
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x00000000001298a6 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x53B6
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000140fd2 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0x13D2
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000033751 (edCore): ed::thread::_get_current_thread_id + 0x71
2023-12-20 16:26:41.785 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000021bb2 (ucrtbase): _configthreadlocale + 0x92
2023-12-20 16:26:41.786 INFO    EDCORE (6752): 0x0000000000017344 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14

 

@BIGNEWY

OK...the final steps fixed the issue.  These were:
- Set water = low, and
- Set preload 60k

Pagefile was my issue not hitting SET, but I hit APPLY, thinking that was the proper way.  I confirmed the proper settings.  My windows setting on the card was already anisotropic disabled.

I did some reading on the DX/GPU error you cited and from my additional logs, and depending on source, it could be code, DX mishandling, or bad driver.  My simple triage says it must be in the N2 code given the other maps work ok.  I had already done the DDU GPU driver cleaning and reload. And if one of the two above, e.g. water or preload, allows me to fly, there might be some clues there for the N2 code.  Again, I had a similar issue with Marianas in the beginning, and it eventually worked itself out with no effort on my end.  

Thanks for your time and effort.  Have a wonderful holiday season.

db

PS  SRS also installed and working.

Edited December 20, 2023 by Dawgboy

[BIGNEWY]

Good to hear it helped, have a great holiday and new year.