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LuseKofte

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Been using a Polish custom made stick for a while. image.jpg

I very reluctant decided to go for a ffb stick. Since Brünner users reported a bit of overheating problems and price was pretty high I ordered the Rhino by VP Force. image.jpg

I must say that for a rotor head and occasionally fixed wing flyer this was a good choice. I expected a one year wait, but it took only 4 weeks for me. Might be a buyer that rejected his order. 
in DCS this stick work perfectly. You can remove the spring effect in flight and choose to fly with a stick staying put where you leave it just by a mouse click. 
It got strong motors and adjustments have to be made by caution. But so far it’s internal fans not yet started. It seems like it is not prone to overheating by my use. I bolted it to my chair and have books to support it just until I decide the best positions and high  for it

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Mr_sukebe

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Was that bought fully built, or was some DIY required?

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corbu1

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Interesting….how did you get it in 4 weeks?

I have actually about 290 other units shipped before me….

DCS Version: 2.9.15.9408
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod, n.i.) - OH-6A(Mod, n.i.) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - AJS37 - F-14 - MiG-21bis - JF-17 - Mirage F1 - FC2024 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Channel - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan - Kola - Iraq - Cold War Germany — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod)

DCS-Client: 9800X3D, 64GB 6200, RTX3090, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 4TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 64GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro Cyclic: TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + VPforce Rhino FFB FW Stick: TM Warthog Grip and Base, Throttle: TM Warthog Pedals: Komodo Sim. with Dampers Collective: VPC Rotorplus+AH-64D Grip Other: NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s and EUFD, Alain Dufour’s AH-64 TEDAC, TM MFD, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

LuseKofte

LuseKofte

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49 minutes ago, corbu1 said:

Interesting….how did you get it in 4 weeks?

I have actually about 290 other units shipped before me….

I have no idea. I just reserved one and suddenly I had next step. And then a week later a request for payment. One week after that I got it. Serial number 0320. I guess someone did not pay for their item and I got pushed ahead 

VirusAM

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I have no idea. I just reserved one and suddenly I had next step. And then a week later a request for payment. One week after that I got it. Serial number 0320. I guess someone did not pay for their item and I got pushed ahead 
Interesting...I have reserved mine around august and still 140 to go before mine

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LuseKofte

LuseKofte

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1 hour ago, VirusAM said:
1 hour ago, LuseKofte said:
I have no idea. I just reserved one and suddenly I had next step. And then a week later a request for payment. One week after that I got it. Serial number 0320. I guess someone did not pay for their item and I got pushed ahead 

Interesting...I have reserved mine around august and still 140 to go before mine

I did contact them a year ago. I am not sure if I did reserve one then. But I did reserve one before christmas . Maybe I was in line just did not know it.

I might have reserved one in Discord at the time. And when I did it on website. I might have been in que 

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VirusAM

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Yeah most probably. It is possible to use the bot to check your place in the cue...
Probably you did reserve 2 units in different times

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corbu1

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Yes, this might explain it. Then you can expect your second unit in a half year delivered.😉

DCS Version: 2.9.15.9408
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod, n.i.) - OH-6A(Mod, n.i.) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - AJS37 - F-14 - MiG-21bis - JF-17 - Mirage F1 - FC2024 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Channel - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan - Kola - Iraq - Cold War Germany — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod)

DCS-Client: 9800X3D, 64GB 6200, RTX3090, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 4TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 64GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro Cyclic: TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + VPforce Rhino FFB FW Stick: TM Warthog Grip and Base, Throttle: TM Warthog Pedals: Komodo Sim. with Dampers Collective: VPC Rotorplus+AH-64D Grip Other: NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s and EUFD, Alain Dufour’s AH-64 TEDAC, TM MFD, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

LuseKofte

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14 minutes ago, corbu1 said:

Yes, this might explain it. Then you can expect your second unit in a half year delivered.😉

If so I resell it I guess there are souls out there not wanting to wait. 
For DCS this is an amazing set of hardware. You need not to worry. It is in the absolute top shelf 

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Dovivan

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On 1/30/2024 at 8:04 PM, VirusAM said:
On 1/30/2024 at 7:56 PM, LuseKofte said:
I have no idea. I just reserved one and suddenly I had next step. And then a week later a request for payment. One week after that I got it. Serial number 0320. I guess someone did not pay for their item and I got pushed ahead 

Interesting...I have reserved mine around august and still 140 to go before mine

Hmm where i can see waiting list? 

LuseKofte

LuseKofte

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Well it seems like when this thing started I was apparently the 320 th one that reserved one in Discord. I was not following this up, but down the line I should have made a reservation in their website. When I finally did it happened to be just in time. I was still in queue and formalised it by doing formalities in their website. 
I do not know where you can see your list. Might be on discord. 
I now have fastened it and found ideal position for itIMG_0492.jpeg

corbu1

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vor 8 Stunden schrieb Dovivan:

Hmm where i can see waiting list? 

You can get your status on their discord channel.

DCS Version: 2.9.15.9408
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod, n.i.) - OH-6A(Mod, n.i.) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - AJS37 - F-14 - MiG-21bis - JF-17 - Mirage F1 - FC2024 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Channel - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan - Kola - Iraq - Cold War Germany — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod)

DCS-Client: 9800X3D, 64GB 6200, RTX3090, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 4TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 64GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro Cyclic: TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + VPforce Rhino FFB FW Stick: TM Warthog Grip and Base, Throttle: TM Warthog Pedals: Komodo Sim. with Dampers Collective: VPC Rotorplus+AH-64D Grip Other: NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s and EUFD, Alain Dufour’s AH-64 TEDAC, TM MFD, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

Dogmanbird

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Hi LuseKofte,

Can I please ask - when making very tiny inputs with the rhino (just 1 or 2 millimetres of movement at the grip)  is there any kind of stiction or break-through force required, before the stick moves?  

Thank you 🙂

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Murphyd

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On 2/9/2024 at 1:18 AM, Dogmanbird said:

Hi LuseKofte,

Can I please ask - when making very tiny inputs with the rhino (just 1 or 2 millimetres of movement at the grip)  is there any kind of stiction or break-through force required, before the stick moves?  

Thank you 🙂

 

Hi Dogmanbird,

I found this thread whilst looking for something else and saw your unanswered question. In case you're still wondering, there is no initial stiction or break-through that I can detect. I'm running mine in dead-stick mode for flying the Apache and Huey i.e. move stick, let go, it stays in place. I would however note that for significant inputs, I tend to press and hold the force trim release button which in my setup gives completely unrestricted movement until I release the button.

I played with numerous configurations (so many control options available) and never quite had something I was completely happy with so decided to try another users profile which I found on the VP Force discord which worked beautifully. The Rhino when compared to the Virpil CM3 and Orion2 clutch based bases (I've owned both and both had horrible stiction) is absolutely God Tier for helicopter flying.

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VirusAM

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Hi LuseKofte,
Can I please ask - when making very tiny inputs with the rhino (just 1 or 2 millimetres of movement at the grip)  is there any kind of stiction or break-through force required, before the stick moves?  
Thank you
Sorry, I did miss this question as well...
The software in the Rhino is pretty configurable.
You don't have any break force, but there is a setting for it if you wish to have (an area of the travel around the center where the motors won't engage).
No stiction at all with the power and the USB connected as there is an anticogging algorithm

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corbu1

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I have my Rhino FFB set up and did a first flight in the AH-64D.

Wow, that is such a beautiful device!!! 

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DCS Version: 2.9.15.9408
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod, n.i.) - OH-6A(Mod, n.i.) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - AJS37 - F-14 - MiG-21bis - JF-17 - Mirage F1 - FC2024 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Channel - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan - Kola - Iraq - Cold War Germany — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod)

DCS-Client: 9800X3D, 64GB 6200, RTX3090, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 4TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 64GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro Cyclic: TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + VPforce Rhino FFB FW Stick: TM Warthog Grip and Base, Throttle: TM Warthog Pedals: Komodo Sim. with Dampers Collective: VPC Rotorplus+AH-64D Grip Other: NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s and EUFD, Alain Dufour’s AH-64 TEDAC, TM MFD, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

RealDCSpilot

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Congrats! In roughly 2.5 weeks it's 2 year anniversary

 

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Murphyd

Murphyd

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On 4/23/2024 at 10:53 PM, corbu1 said:

I have my Rhino FFB set up and did a first flight in the AH-64D.

Wow, that is such a beautiful device!!! 

IMG_2260.jpeg

Corbu,

Can I ask what extension you're using and where you got it? I'm using a straight extension so stick position isn't ideal.

corbu1

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb Murphyd:

Corbu,

Can I ask what extension you're using and where you got it? I'm using a straight extension so stick position isn't ideal.

It is an aluminium gooseneck extension which can be ordered at ebay (link: https://www.ebay.de/itm/292123030904 ). The normal one is about 40cm long. This was too long for my setup, so I ordered a custom shorter one, but had to adjust to fit in my simrig with the Rhino.
The extensions angle is compensated with an adapter avaible at qr4rigs. 
 

don‘t speak about the price 😇. It was an expensive solution this way, but I didn‘t like other extensions I found . And I wanted helo style cyclic build.🤷🏻‍♂️ I like the handling of the stick.

DCS Version: 2.9.15.9408
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod, n.i.) - OH-6A(Mod, n.i.) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - AJS37 - F-14 - MiG-21bis - JF-17 - Mirage F1 - FC2024 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Channel - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan - Kola - Iraq - Cold War Germany — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod)

DCS-Client: 9800X3D, 64GB 6200, RTX3090, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 4TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 64GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro Cyclic: TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + VPforce Rhino FFB FW Stick: TM Warthog Grip and Base, Throttle: TM Warthog Pedals: Komodo Sim. with Dampers Collective: VPC Rotorplus+AH-64D Grip Other: NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s and EUFD, Alain Dufour’s AH-64 TEDAC, TM MFD, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

corbu1

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb Aapje:

Q: How much was it?

A: Yes, much.

It‘s not the products itself. They are custom made and that’s fine. It‘s the customs import fee from UK to EU …..

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DCS Version: 2.9.15.9408
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod, n.i.) - OH-6A(Mod, n.i.) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - AJS37 - F-14 - MiG-21bis - JF-17 - Mirage F1 - FC2024 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Channel - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan - Kola - Iraq - Cold War Germany — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod)

DCS-Client: 9800X3D, 64GB 6200, RTX3090, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 4TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 64GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro Cyclic: TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + VPforce Rhino FFB FW Stick: TM Warthog Grip and Base, Throttle: TM Warthog Pedals: Komodo Sim. with Dampers Collective: VPC Rotorplus+AH-64D Grip Other: NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s and EUFD, Alain Dufour’s AH-64 TEDAC, TM MFD, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

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jnr4817

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On 4/28/2024 at 4:38 PM, corbu1 said:

It is an aluminium gooseneck extension which can be ordered at ebay (link: https://www.ebay.de/itm/292123030904 ). The normal one is about 40cm long. This was too long for my setup, so I ordered a custom shorter one, but had to adjust to fit in my simrig with the Rhino.
The extensions angle is compensated with an adapter avaible at qr4rigs. 
 

don‘t speak about the price 😇. It was an expensive solution this way, but I didn‘t like other extensions I found . And I wanted helo style cyclic build.🤷🏻‍♂️ I like the handling of the stick.

Got a link to angle adapter from qr4rigs?

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