VPForce Rhino DIY Kit for sale - AGAIN RHINO in a day!

[Winger]

1 hour ago, Hiob said:

Do you have all pieces (and the prices) dialed in yet?

Hey. It will probably not become available as a kit because the parts are quite costly alltogether.
I will consider building one for individuals on order for a reasonable buiding fee. I am not entirely sure about that yet.

Edited September 12, 2024 by Winger

[Hiob]

7 minutes ago, Winger said:

Hey. It will probably not become available as a kit because the parts are quite costly alltogether.
I will consider building one for individuals on order for a reasonable buiding fee. I am not entirely sure about that yet.

 

I see. Makes sense. But hit me with a quote for the laser sintered gimbal when you are ready for it!

[kaltokri]

There are only 5 kits left. In these kits the gimbal was printed with PETG-CF.
For new kits after that we will switch to standard PETG. It is sufficient in terms of stability and simplifies processing.
But if you would still like to have PETG-CF, you should buy it now.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

So, I see there are at least 2 DIY kits made-for-build here. What are the differences?

[Winger]

1 hour ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

So, I see there are at least 2 DIY kits made-for-build here. What are the differences?

PM due to wall of text:
Short form:
Both are awesome and will raise your level of immersion to new heights. There has literally not been a single guy that i know that tried a FFB Bbase and didnt want one right thereafter;)
One has a higher pricepoint and therefor delivers more force. Other than that both use the same VPForce TelemFFB software.

Edited September 16, 2024 by Winger

[friese01]

If one likes to try : i have a used Rhino for sale. The Rhino was built in May 2024 by winger. Absolute glorious peace of equipment. https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/vpforce-rhino-ffb-base-force-feedback-flugsimulation-dcs-il2/2867785413-225-5878

[kaltokri]

I am now offering the DIY kits for building a Rhino joystick at a reduced price of € 399.

[kaltokri]

Hi guys,
I offer here a complete RhinoMFG.  It consists of brand new Crosswinds MFG rudder pedal (invoice included), a 57BLF03 motor and all parts of the MFG Crosswind Mod from Hiob. It is complete and ready for immediate use. This is the prototype for our DIY kits. The parts were printed in super quality from Prusament Galaxy PLA in black, which matches the colour of the pedals perfectly. I am selling everything together for 750 € plus shipping costs.

This sweety is sold. But everyone can have this great feeling, by buying the MFG, our RhinoMFG kit and a motor kit. Just PM me.

Edited November 3, 2024 by kaltokri
sold

[Aapje]

Interesting. Do you plan to make a kit for those who already have a Crosswind?

[Hiob]

2 hours ago, Aapje said:

Interesting. Do you plan to make a kit for those who already have a Crosswind?

That‘s the actual idea. He‘s selling a kit, that consist of the 3D-prints and all the hardware except the Crosswinds and the motor-kit (which you can order separately from VPforce. The Assembly then runs on the same software as the Rhino.

[kaltokri]

11 hours ago, Aapje said:

Interesting. Do you plan to make a kit for those who already have a Crosswind?

Here are all informations about the RhinoMFG kit:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRqbUWTxlUd09m2rdLoUV7u_ZEdTDFg0Q1TZOR1rLTqXAowPfY8BeuTKLsWwPUjfVNpjtz_EQVaaoVT/pub

They are available very soon (1-2 weeks). Please contact me if you want to order one.

[Aapje]

I have other priorities first (including an FFB base, but it does look very interesting).

[kaltokri]

The RhinoMFG DIY-Kits are now in stock and are available for purchase (139.- + shipping).
Just send me a PM if you want to order a kit.

[kaltokri]

Here is a picture of a modded RhinoTPR (Thrustmaster TPR).

It is a Thrustmaster TPR of a friend. It is fully working. But I need to optimise the parts a little bit more.

To do this I need to buy my own TPR. But I can spend the money on that only after the RhinoMFG prototype is sold.

[MAXsenna]

Can Slaws be your next project?  

[kaltokri]

They are on the list, but I sort the list according to popularity distribution and I hear about the Slaw much less often than Virpil ACE, for example.

Edited October 29, 2024 by kaltokri

[MAXsenna]

3 hours ago, kaltokri said:

They are on the list, but I sort the list according to popularity distribution and I hear about the Slaw much less often than Virpil ACE, for example.

 

Yeah, they're hard to come by!

[motoadve]

Have MFG pedals, so curious about the RhinoMFG, I only fly warbirds in DCS, what effects do you have with the MFG pedals?

I fly a warbird in real life this are the effects I get on my plane :

The pedals shake a lot when buffeting happens just before the stall

Pedals get stiffer at high speed, but more responsive which means just a bit of pressure gives you lots of rudder authority, and softer and less responsive at slow speeds.

Engine rumble, its felt very subtle on the pedals.

Do we have this effects with the RhinoMFG?

I would love to have those effect and of course hit effects, if your rudder gets hit, it should give you a jolt in the pedals.

[Hiob]

58 minutes ago, motoadve said:

Have MFG pedals, so curious about the RhinoMFG, I only fly warbirds in DCS, what effects do you have with the MFG pedals?

I fly a warbird in real life this are the effects I get on my plane :

The pedals shake a lot when buffeting happens just before the stall

Pedals get stiffer at high speed, but more responsive which means just a bit of pressure gives you lots of rudder authority, and softer and less responsive at slow speeds.

Engine rumble, its felt very subtle on the pedals.

Do we have this effects with the RhinoMFG?

I would love to have those effect and of course hit effects, if your rudder gets hit, it should give you a jolt in the pedals.

Yes. All effects that can be felt through the stick can also be felt through the pedals (shudder, weapons, ground rumble etc.) On top you get increasing stiffness with airspeed. Mind though that the latter effect is not netively implemented by DCS for pedals (like all the other effects) but are provided by the TelemFFB companion app.

[motoadve]

That's great, I have version2 of MFG, will see how complicated it would be for my version to adapt the FFB kit before buying.

[Hiob]

5 minutes ago, motoadve said:

That's great, I have version2 of MFG, will see how complicated it would be for my version to adapt the FFB kit before buying.

It's not - the latest Kit fits all MFGs. In fact I designed it with my own V2s and adapted it later for V3 as well. Kaltokri has made a FAQ with some additional things to check to be sure, but It shouldn't be a problem.
 

[kaltokri]

For the next three Rhino Joystick DIY kits I am offering a new free service. I will assemble all parts as far as possible. This means that the customer only needs to add the motors, aluminum pulleys, belts, mainboard and wiring. Then he screws on the front and base plate and the Rhino is finished.
It is also possible to order a completely built DIY Rhino Joystick from me. Both ways lead to a Rhino joystick without a long waiting time. Please contact me via PM if you are interested.

[kaltokri]

Here are two videos from Hiob to show the effects on the RhinoMFG.
One shows the spring force which will be different depending on the speeds.
The other shows the effect just before a stall.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZt3mOSLmp1jtxvrNdaE3mDCGeoVGOCD/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pVY_yHfMUIJincFG-UX7ShViL5YinNr8/view?usp=sharing

[Hiob]

1 hour ago, kaltokri said:

Here are two videos from Hiob to show the effects on the RhinoMFG.
One shows the spring force which will be different depending on the speeds.
The other shows the effect just before a stall.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZt3mOSLmp1jtxvrNdaE3mDCGeoVGOCD/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pVY_yHfMUIJincFG-UX7ShViL5YinNr8/view?usp=sharing

I might add, that the video can't really show how it feels. An important part of the FFB on pedals (and on a joystick) is the feel effect for friction damping and inertia. Which can of course be tuned individually by the user.

The advantage e.g. of FFB damping over a hardware (bike-)damper is, that no amount of damping adds any sticktion.

Edited October 30, 2024 by Hiob

[motoadve]

20 minutes ago, Hiob said:

I might add, that the video can't really show how it feels. An important part of the FFB on pedals (and on a joystick) is the feel effect for friction damping and inertia. Which can of course be tuned individually by the user.

The advantage e.g. of FFB damping over a hardware (bike-)damper is, that no amount of damping adds any sticktion.

 

I have the Rhino base, I have Telem working as the software and have my settings, by adding the RhinoMFG a new Telem window opens just for the pedals so I can put the settings I want for pedals, or it uses the same settings as I already have on the Rhino Stick?