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Crash Master

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I've been running DCS for many years without significant problems until I did a clean install a few days ago and have not been able to get DCS to launch since.  Have done multiple Uninstall/installs, cleanups, repairs (short and long), disk repairs, anything I can think of.  Drivers are up to date.  I did see that, even though my installation directory is D:, several files are being installed on C:, including Logs, Metashaders2, Config, etc.  I've never noticed that before, is this normal?  Attached logs from several attempts this morning. 

dcs.log-20240325-173541.zip dcs.log-20240325-160905.zip dcs.log-20240325-161630.zip dcs.log-20240325-162300.zip dcs.log-20240325-171059.zip

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Hi. I see you have 128 GB of RAM, but for some reason, the sim complains of a lack of memory: 

2024-03-25 17:35:40.192 ALERT   EDCORE (Main): Out of memory in ed_malloc for 4371621096 bytes.
2024-03-25 17:35:40.227 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2024-03-25 17:35:40.957 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20240325-173541 --------------
2024-03-25 17:35:40.959 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.3.51704 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631)
2024-03-25 17:35:40.961 INFO    EDCORE (Main): D:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin-mt\edCore.dll
2024-03-25 17:35:40.963 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # 80000003 BREAKPOINT at 00007ffc702c77ab 00:00000000
2024-03-25 17:35:40.965 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'PB'
2024-03-25 17:35:40.967 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x300-0x1
2024-03-25 17:35:41.015 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000277ab (edCore): ed::fatal_out_of_memory + 0x3B

I found another user with the same symptoms, but I'm not sure the problem was ever solved:

 

You should check your RAM:

 


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Thanks for your response.  I checked RAM and everything seems fine. Attempted another clean installation this morning and got the error message shown.  Retry does nothing and cancel just takes me back to desktop.  Did a cleanup and quick repair with no change.  Running a slow repair right now, but that will take a while.   I was at least able to get to the main DCS screen prior to today.  Any ideas? 

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A full repair should work.

If it does not, try running both exes in ".\DCS World\distr\", one after the other. One will probably tell you that it's installed already but that's OK.

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So, the full repair worked, and I was able to run DCS with the included aircraft and terrain.  I decided to start installing my modules one at a time to continue testing, and after installing the first one and testing with the different default graphic settings, performance got increasingly worse, until the load times became unbearable.  I did another slow repair and tried to test again with no luck.  The time from launch to main DCS screen was 16 minutes.  After selecting a mission, the load process took over 30 minutes and nearly completed until it crashed.  That report is attached.  I also installed the exes you suggested with no noticeable change.

I think today I will install on my OS drive (C:) just to see what happens.  

 

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It usually happens with antivirus software. Try and add your main DCS path ("D:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\") as an exception in your antivirus.

If it doesn't help, we'll search for a drive issue, because the crash looks like a drive issue: 

2024-03-28 00:23:43.753 WARNING FLIGHT (Main): No taxiroad found on Tbilisi-Lochini from 65 to 73
2024-03-28 00:23:49.134 INFO    APP (Main): MissionSpawn:spawnShips 16
2024-03-28 00:23:53.553 WARNING EFFECTS2 (Main): OParticleSystem: preset '' not found in 'shipTrail.lua', using default
2024-03-28 00:23:57.966 WARNING LOG (6692): 3 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2024-03-28 00:23:57.966 INFO    APP (Main): MissionSpawn:spawnShips 2
2024-03-28 00:25:34.964 INFO    EDCORE (2844): try to write dump information
2024-03-28 00:25:35.274 INFO    EDCORE (2844): # -------------- 20240328-002535 --------------
2024-03-28 00:25:35.276 INFO    EDCORE (2844): DCS/2.9.3.51704 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631)
2024-03-28 00:25:35.278 INFO    EDCORE (2844): C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140.dll
2024-03-28 00:25:35.280 INFO    EDCORE (2844): # C0000006 IN_PAGE_ERROR at 00007ffd8b611404 00:00000000
2024-03-28 00:25:35.285 INFO    EDCORE (2844): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'PB'
2024-03-28 00:25:35.287 INFO    EDCORE (2844): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x300-0x1
2024-03-28 00:25:35.289 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x0000000000001404 (VCRUNTIME140): memcpy + 0x114
2024-03-28 00:25:35.293 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x000000000006f3c8 (edCore): io::MemBinaryFileR::read + 0x68
2024-03-28 00:25:35.295 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x000000000006ecb5 (edCore): io::IBinaryFileR::readUint8 + 0x15
2024-03-28 00:25:35.300 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x00000000000042d9 (ModelDesc): model::InstanceData::alloc + 0x9D9
2024-03-28 00:25:35.305 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x0000000000016e01 (ModelDesc): model::RenderNode::getDamageHandle + 0x1B1
2024-03-28 00:25:35.305 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x000000000001b270 (ModelDesc): model::RootNode::getVisArgs + 0xD50
2024-03-28 00:25:35.305 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x000000000001c24a (ModelDesc): model::RootNode::open + 0x5FA
2024-03-28 00:25:35.305 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x00000000000389ce (NGModel): model::NGModelLodsMT::applyMults + 0x6AE
2024-03-28 00:25:35.305 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x0000000000036290 (NGModel): model::NGModelLodsMT::~NGModelLodsMT + 0x650
2024-03-28 00:25:35.305 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x0000000000034fb8 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0xB38
2024-03-28 00:25:35.305 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x0000000000049ff6 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x15B76
2024-03-28 00:25:35.306 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x00000000000339c1 (edCore): ed::thread::_get_current_thread_id + 0x71
2024-03-28 00:25:35.306 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x0000000000029333 (ucrtbase): _recalloc + 0xA3
2024-03-28 00:25:35.306 INFO    EDCORE (2844): 0x000000000001257d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D
2024-03-28 00:25:36.879 INFO    EDCORE (2844): Minidump created.

 


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FYI - I had my antivirus turned off when working on it yesterday.

I just installed on my OS C drive and everything works perfectly, so perhaps it is a drive issue. I'm happy to leave it there for now, but my concern is running out of room, which is why I had it installed on a separate drive by itself.  I've been thinking about replacing D with an SSD anyways, so this may be the time. 

Ironically, I tried to uninstall DCS from D and the files were corrupted, so I couldn't access .bin or even run a repair, I can't even uninstall using Windows. Just for fun, I thought about reformatting D and simply copying the DCS files from C to D, just to see what happens.  I don't mind spending the time, do you see any danger in that?    

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Maybe it's just a bad SATA cable. See a previous case, here:

 

But since I understand your D:\ drive is a HDD, then look no further. It's probably time to say goodbye to it. 🙂

There's absolutely no danger copying your installation from a drive to another.

I'll mark the thread as solved, but if you have some bad news, answer back and I'll remove the tag.


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If everything else fails, before nuking any kind of hardware, delete your windows/system temporary folder. I've seen hints of it making problems relating to editor files failing to compile on mission loading while troubleshooting other problem I've encountered in DCS.

My issue was unrelated to the temporary files, it was the carrier crewmen statics preventing mission loading, for further information.

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Just now, Czar66 said:

My issue was unrelated to the temporary files, it was the carrier crewmen statics preventing mission loading, for further information.

This issue should be fixed for good with the next update.

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2 hours ago, Crash Master said:

Thanks so much for your help, Flappie.  Comforting to know there are responsive, knowledgeable people here to help. 

Crash Master. You marked as solved by your own comment? What was the solution to the issue, in case anyone else with the same problem comes to see how it was fixed?

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