tfrp rudder pedals

[charlie]

i've got thrustmaster tfrp rudder pedals, and i can't get them to bind the toe brakes, i select axis, wheel brakes left  highlight that axis and cycle the toe brakes but nothing happens.ideas please.

[BIGNEWY]

10 hours ago, charlie said:

i've got thrustmaster tfrp rudder pedals, and i can't get them to bind the toe brakes, i select axis, wheel brakes left  highlight that axis and cycle the toe brakes but nothing happens.ideas please.

please ensure the toe brakes are calibrated. 

When you are pressing them ensure they travel the full distance of the axis, this usually allows them to be seen by DCS

Thanks 

[Frayer]

Hi, I will continue here since it is similar problem:

I am new user of Thrustmaster T16000 combo and have problems with toe brakes as well: how to properly set them up?

For instance, in Mig29 I can set them like on picture below.

But why are there two possibilities? See arrows...

I can only set them in "Axis commands-Wheel brake" (upper arrow) as JOY_RX and JOY_RY....

... but not on "Systems-Wheel brake On" (like W on keyboard, which I normally used before I bought the combo) since it does not recognize them, probably because they are sliders or something?

..I could set curvature here if I want:

But the problem is:

- at first,when I taxi, everything is OK

- but when I later go for lift off, at approximately 100km/h I started to hear that PSSS sound like they are activating. It sounds every 2 or 3 seconds by itself...

- the same is when I later landing - it immediately starts to sound that psss (in the air before touchdown)

So I guess my setting isn`t correct. What is?

[Snakedoc]

You’re selecting the wrong column for the input device (in the picture you’ve selected TWSC throttle).

Make sure you select the column under the device your trying to configure, e.g. TFRP pedals if you’re looking to bind the toe brakes to DCS

 

also, ensure there are no double bindings for the same item . DCS auto-assigns default key binds to several inputs and its common to have conflicts when a new input device is added 

Edited April 6 by Snakedoc

[Frayer]

I don`t have any TFRP to select, see below.

Thrustmaster has pedals connected to its HOTAS via propitiatory cable (and not with USB to PC) so you have only one USB device to choose (TWCS Throttle) which has all the buttons/sliders from throttle itself and from pedals, in one column.

And you can see from printscreen that I have no double selection in that line:

But still - what bothers me why are there two options, what is the difference between them?

The similar problems I have with Mig-21...

 

P.S. I am not using Target software but only the windows drivers...

Toe brakes are seen as  "X rotation" and "Y rotation":

 

....and I can see their movement in DCS itself, as sliders not as buttons. In DCS they are represented as "Joy_RX" and "Joy_RY"

Edited April 6 by Frayer

[Eugel]

36 minutes ago, Frayer said:

I don`t have any TFRP to select, see below.

Thrustmaster has pedals connected to its HOTAS via propitiatory cable (and not with USB to PC) so you have only one USB device to choose (TWCS Throttle) which has all the buttons/sliders from throttle itself and from pedals, in one column.

I don´t use them anymore, but my TFRP had an adapter box with a standard USB cable:

Also, why do you have both RX and RY axis assigned to the wheel brake ? That only makes sense if you have separate left/right wheel brakes, which the Mig 29 doesn´t seem to have.

(example A-10)

[Frayer]

I didn`t get this adapter in the combo box. It seems that they started charging extra for it or you get it only if you buy rudders separately (not in 3 piece combo for planes).

I see it has a switch for car/plane select (that is probably the main reason for it)... so I guess it is not essential for planes, maybe only for cars.

********************

 

I don`t know what I changed, but brakes are working now. I removed curvature, maybe that was the reason...

 

Now I have to find the way with Mig-21, I still have some issues there. Even more brakes settings....  I don`t know what is the difference between brake lever (in Axis set) and Wheel brakes  in "Gears, brakes and chute" section... so I am pressing both when I try to stop.

Anyone knows?

 

Edited April 6 by Frayer

[Frayer]

And you are right: it is easier to steer and brake at the same time if you only press one toe brake..

[Dragon1-1]

First of all, MiG-21 does not have toe brakes, but a lever which is actually on the stick in the real aircraft. You also have two bindings for the lever: an axis and a button. They do the same thing, the button is for when you don't have enough axes to assign the lever. Finally, there is an emergency, manual brake handle, which is used if there is a failure in the primary brake system, which has a limited amount of compressed air to work with. Such a failure may be caused by something as simple as leaving the gear handle in up position, so it's good to have the emergency brake handy.

Nose gear brake is actually a switch, and what it does is toggle the brake on the nose gear. MiG-21 can only be steered on the ground by differential braking, accomplished by moving the pedals and pulling the lever. As such, the nose gear brake shouldn't be enabled for taxi, because it would prevent the front wheel from rolling and just stop the aircraft instead of turning it. So you have to turn the front brake off for taxi, and turn it back on when you want full brake effectiveness.

[rob10]

The "Wheel brakes" under "Gears, brakes, and chute" are meant for a button.  It will strictly give you all the way ON or all the way OFF.

The "Wheel brake lever" is an AXIS which means you can control how much braking you want with it.  Press your "toe brake" on your rudder pedals half way and you get 1/2 ON.  Press all the way and you get full ON etc.

[virgo47]

I had the complete T.16000M and TWCS+TFRP combo - and TFRP is part of TWCS as it is connected via the same USB cable. There is no separate TFRP (device or column in DCS) if you connect it through that RJ-style connector.

Then: I didn't use toe-brakes on TFRP for single-handle-style brakes of East-bloc planes (e.g. L-39)... it doesn't make much sense, find another axis far away from toe-brakes for that. Otherwise, you risk interference between the axes. It is possible, but it is not the best solution, really.

Finally: Enjoy the pedals while they work OK-ish... From the three products combo, I wish I omitted those. Yes, they are pedals, but they are jittery, jumpy, sticky... and too narrow for a male (not to mention too narrow in general).

[Frayer]

Thank you all, I understand things better now.

[MAXsenna]

Virgo is correct. In the set with stick, throttle and pedals, no adapter is needed, and the pedals show up as axis under the TWCS. Your milage may vary, it's a good starter kit, but axis that are potentiometers, will unfortunately fail.
Personally I've never had any issue with the pedals except for the design, and never had any issue with them in DCS, as long as one remembers to set the toe brakes as sliders, and invert them in the relevant modules.
Cheers!

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[Frayer]

So, is this correct setting for brakes: set them as slider and invert?

[virgo47]

Sometimes, Invert can be module-dependent - and also depending on the global setup you have for the pedals - you just need to check it, ideally hot start on the runway, check control indicators (RCtrl+Enter by default) and see there. Most modules also show the action of pedals in the cockpit, some don't (at least F-15C from FC3 does not).

Slider is always a logical choice for non-centered axes... although now I see I forgot to check it but I'd definitely find out the moment when I'd start playing with curvature. Yes, you want wheel brakes as sliders.