Supercarrier update in regards to the Kuznetsov

[Xeemix]

I'm assuming a majority of all the content announced coming for the supercarrier module is focused towards the blufor stuff, just wanted clarification.

[Silver_Dragon]

5 hours ago, Xeemix said:

I'm assuming a majority of all the content announced coming for the supercarrier module is focused towards the blufor stuff, just wanted clarification.

ED has none plans to update, the Kuznetsov CV, on fact, the updated 3d model was only a extra, as the Akreig Burke DDG and Su-33 AI. The features has only centered on the Theodore Roosevelt sub-class (the shop has very clear):

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DCS: Supercarrier is the most detailed and realistic simulation of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier ever created.

The DCS: Supercarrier module also includes the Russian Kuznetsov aircraft carrier, the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer, and the Su-33 Flanker D fighter.

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/modules/supercarrier/

[Czar66]

Supercarrier module was never about anything else other than the Nimitz-Class ships.

Kuznetsov was a bonus with the Su-33 portion of the FC3 module. It has nothing to do with the Supercarrier module.

I was stupid there. Kuznetsov and the Su-33 are free with the Supercarrier. Thanks, MAXSenna.

Edited June 23, 2024 by Czar66

[Xeemix]

Thank you!

[MAXsenna]

Supercarrier module was never about anything else other than the Nimitz-Class ships.
Kuznetsov was a bonus with the Su-33 portion of the FC3 module. It has nothing to do with the Supercarrier module.

What do you mean? You need the SC to get the updated Kuznetsov, and you get the Su-33 with it. You don't get the Kuznetsov with the FC3 pack nor the Su-33. I'm sure I'm misunderstanding you.
Cheers!

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[Czar66]

13 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

What do you mean? You need the SC to get the updated Kuznetsov, and you get the Su-33 with it. You don't get the Kuznetsov with the FC3 pack nor the Su-33. I'm sure I'm misunderstanding you.
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You're 100% correct. I registered in my memory the Kuznetsov being free with the 33 but all was included with Supercarrier. It was a long week. My bad.

[MAXsenna]

You're 100% correct. I registered in my memory the Kuznetsov being free with the 33 but all was included with Supercarrier. It was a long week. My bad.

No worries! I was asking because I returned from a hiatus from DCS when I preordered on whim bundled with the F-18. And to be honest, it would actually be better if it was bundled with FC3/Su-33, since it doesn't have any SC features in any case. One can always hope for the future...
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[Seaeagle]

On 6/17/2024 at 2:56 PM, Czar66 said:

Supercarrier module was never about anything else other than the Nimitz-Class ships.

Yes it was. If you can find the original announcement for the Supercarrier module, you will see that it involved both the Nimitz class as well as the Kuznetsov(there were screenshots of this with animated deck crew), but they changed their minds later and made it all about the Nimitz class, leaving the Kuznetsov with only an updated 3D model.

 

[Silver_Dragon]

Just now, Seaeagle said:

Yes it was. If you can find the original announcement for the Supercarrier module, you will see that it involved both the Nimitz class as well as the Kuznetsov(there were screenshots of this with animated deck crew), but they changed their minds later and made it all about the Nimitz class, leaving the Kuznetsov with only an updated 3D model.

 

The kutnezov deck crew, never was animated... that screenshot has only deck crew without animations.

[Seaeagle]

Just now, Silver_Dragon said:

The kutnezov deck crew, never was animated... that screenshot has only deck crew without animations.

Doesn't matter.  The intention was there - otherwise why post a screenshot showing it with deck crew. 

[Czar66]

12 minutes ago, Seaeagle said:

 ...but they changed their minds later and made it all about the Nimitz class...

 

Source?

The pre-order announcement, the one made before anyone pays anything, doesn't even have a picture of the Kuznetsov. Where is the intention? Is there a source for that affirmation or...?

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/25ce7a8ee98775a8fa89a82d8f2fc2bf/

[MAXsenna]

Doesn't matter.  The intention was there - otherwise why post a screenshot showing it with deck crew. 

Well, for show? I believe SD is correct as the crew was not Russian IIRC.
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[Silver_Dragon]

The release video was very clear... the Nimitz class was the only "Supercarrier" planned by ED.
 

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We are excited to share with you the first preview video of the Supercarrier module coming to DCS World! Supercarrier includes an incredibly detailed Nimitz-class aircraft carrier with all the details you’d expect like realistic 3D objects, textures, lighting, and animations. This module also introduces new features into DCS World like an animated deck crew, interactive Landing Signal Officer (LSO) station, and CASE I, II, and III carrier landing radio communications.

The "animated crew" never was a planned Russian deck crew with animations and funtionality. On fact, the animated carrier crew has into Coremods / Tech / Nimitz / animations, with a complete ".edge" extensions, include models, animations and other propper techs. The old Kutnesov deck crew, can found on the Coremods / Tech / Kutnesov / shapes directory.... and none of them has animations arguments, and missing the animations directory.

The Supercarrier screenshots dont show the Kutnesov carrier or your deck crew working.
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/screenshots/1270/

The "on develop" pic section have in the shame situations, none about them.
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/screenshots/572/

I think Chizh claimed on the russian forum, ED lack any propper info about how working the Russian carrier crew operations to simulate them propperly.

Edited June 23, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[draconus]

16 hours ago, Seaeagle said:

The intention was there - otherwise why post a screenshot showing it with deck crew. 

Yes but plans change, it was long time ago.

You can still see the pictures here:

[Silver_Dragon]

4 minutes ago, draconus said:

Yes but plans change, it was long time ago.

You can still see the pictures here:

In fact, my post clearly shows a static AI crew, that none has the level of detail or animations as the SC carrier crew.

[draconus]

6 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

In fact, my post clearly shows a static AI crew, that none has the level of detail or animations as the SC carrier crew.

Yes, because they are much older models. Nonetheless dedicated russian deck crew, not some random soldiers. I think many would like them added anyway instead of nothing.

Edited June 24, 2024 by draconus

[Silver_Dragon]

The actual "Kutnesov Crew" on the EDM directories. The Shame old 2020s 3D models show on the develop pics, not updated from years ago, all have none animation, except the tractor.

Edited June 24, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[Seaeagle]

6 hours ago, draconus said:

Yes but plans change, it was long time ago.

Yes it was a long time ago(when the plans for the Supercarrier module first emerged" ), but the fact is that back then it was indeed the intention to model both the Nimitz as well as the Kuznetsov with interactive features and the new Kuznetsov 3D model was made in connection with that , so the notion that the Supercarrier module was "never about anything else other than the Nimitz class" is simply not correct. But like you said, that plan changed for whatever reason(could be commercial considerations or that ED didn't feel they had enough info on Russian carrier operations) and from that point on became all about the Nimitz class. 

 

6 hours ago, draconus said:

You can still see the pictures here:

Thanks.