Su-25 - Canopy Frame Bug

[paulferris]

I can't see that this long-standing problem - where it looks like the external model is clipping throught the cockpit model - has been reported here? See post below for full details.

Given the work that has already been done on the Su-25 cockpit, can this please be fixed - at least for FC4, if not FC3.

Thanks

[draconus]

2 hours ago, paulferris said:

I can't see that this long-standing problem - where it looks like the external model is clipping throught the cockpit model - has been reported here?

It was, many times.

2 hours ago, paulferris said:

can this please be fixed - at least for FC4, if not FC3.

If they fix it it will be for the aircraft, no matter which FC pack, since it is included in both, or as standalone module of course.

Edited July 9, 2024 by draconus

[paulferris]

Thanks Draconus,

yes, I saw (and linked) to that, but it was not in the 'Flaming Cliffs Bugs & Problems' folder - hence, my re-post.

[draconus]

Here's better one. 2015!!!

[paulferris]

Thanks - so BigNewy reported it nine years ago, and nothing appears to have happened apart from his reminder in 2019?

[Skuva]

- One of the most trivial-to-fix bugs reported 9 years ago;

- A texture overhaul in february 2024;

- A new Flaming Cliffs release just now;

- Still not fixed.

- I just lost hope of seing this ever being fixed.

[Ironhand]

On 7/9/2024 at 3:52 AM, paulferris said:

I can't see that this long-standing problem - where it looks like the external model is clipping throught the cockpit model - has been reported here? See post below for full details.

Given the work that has already been done on the Su-25 cockpit, can this please be fixed - at least for FC4, if not FC3.

Thanks

IIRC, the problem is that the Su-25 max files have been lost. Fixing this would require recreating the entire external model. That’s not going to happen, not with this version of the aircraft, anyway.

[paulferris]

I heard that, too, Ironhand... but also someone (I think one of the ED Testers) say that he was pretty sure that was not the case?

Either way, it would be nice to get some sort of response from ED!

[Skuva]

2 hours ago, Ironhand said:

IIRC, the problem is that the Su-25 max files have been lost. Fixing this would require recreating the entire external model. That’s not going to happen, not with this version of the aircraft, anyway.

I heard this story many times to explain why they never fixed any of the system bugs. But that got debunked the instant they released a fix for the CCRP bug in april.

But this makes even less for 3D models, they have the tool for decrypting their EDM format. There is nothing preventing them from just editing it and packing it again. They could even completely remove that piece of geometry (the white arc frame), and no one would ever notice from outside.

EDIT: Its impossible they have no access to the 3D model, considering just last year they made new LOD's for the older aircraft (su-25 included).

EDIT2: It is possible for absolutely anyone to download an ancient version of the game (I think previous to 2.5), and import all FC3 aircraft into blender and modify it as desired. The only change these EDM had over the years since was the encryption. So to think ED can't do it is crazy.

Edited July 13, 2024 by Skuva

[Ironhand]

I stand corrected, then. Guess they’ll get around to it, once all other bugs are corrected…