Sandman1330 Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 Overall enjoying the campaign, except one thing: It seems impossible to actually get a kill. Each sortie I manage to damage one or two, but they always limp home. I've put my entire magazine into 109s and had them happily fly home and land. How is anyone actually getting kills? I know about convergence, and it does work better at convergence (though it's near impossible to actually fire at convergence if they're in any kind of turn), but I still find it hard to believe they can absorb as many 20mm cannon hits as they do. On the flip side, one burst from them and I'm toast, even in a hard turn. All DCS problems I know, but it's unfortunate that something so silly can take so much enjoyment away from what is otherwise a great campaign. Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2
razo+r Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 Do you have a short track or at the very least a video of your shooting?
Reflected Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 That's interesting because I find that 109s are easy to kill with a few rounds. Even 303s. Unlike 190s, those are tanks. I've complained to ED about 190s, maybe you should too, in the relevant subforum. Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord
Sandman1330 Posted August 3, 2024 Author Posted August 3, 2024 58 minutes ago, Reflected said: That's interesting because I find that 109s are easy to kill with a few rounds. Even 303s. Unlike 190s, those are tanks. I've complained to ED about 190s, maybe you should too, in the relevant subforum. Strange, my experience has been the opposite. I usually manage to kill 190s, it’s the 109s that sponge up bullets. And neither reacts to .303, once I’m out of 20mm it’s like I’m shooting blanks! Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2
PawlaczGMD Posted August 3, 2024 Posted August 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Reflected said: That's interesting because I find that 109s are easy to kill with a few rounds. Even 303s. Unlike 190s, those are tanks. I've complained to ED about 190s, maybe you should too, in the relevant subforum. I agree with this. Although it makes sense, as in the 109 you can quite easily pop the oil or radiator and they're done. In the 190 you need to shoot the engine or canopy unless you're going for structural destruction, which is way harder. And those are hard to hit with convergence issues and shooting from behind. 2 minutes ago, Sandman1330 said: Strange, my experience has been the opposite. I usually manage to kill 190s, it’s the 109s that sponge up bullets. And neither reacts to .303, once I’m out of 20mm it’s like I’m shooting blanks! Yes, .303 is mostly for tracers, very weak round.
Sandman1330 Posted August 3, 2024 Author Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, razo+r said: Do you have a short track or at the very least a video of your shooting? Here's a track, not from the campaign (too long). I put my entire magazine into him before his engine finally quit, and I had to sit on his tail for far longer than would be possible in this campaign to do it. The first burst that damaged his landing gear and caused him to leak coolant should have been enough to force him to jump out / emergency land, but he just kept on flying. And taking hits. And flying. I started the track trying to shoot him at convergence, but against a turning target that's near impossible as they disappear under the nose. So I closed to point blank. The screenshot shows how many times he was hit (look at the scroll bar on the right - we were the only 2 units in this mission, and you can scroll all the way up and down and see nothing but him taking hits). Yes, many were on the wings (inside convergence), but there are still alot of important bits in the wings. Look at WW2 gun camera footage and you'll see wings coming off. Surely a 20mm to the main spar is going to shear the wing off, or start a fire in the fuel tank. But they just tank the rounds. I know it's not a campaign issue, but it surely does reduce the fun of the campaign. Edit: Disregard the track, apparently even a short track like this one doesn't survive. It's severely broken. 109 damage model.trk Edited August 3, 2024 by Sandman1330 1 Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2
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