F-111B vs F-14A

[upyr1]

I decided to post this here, I know Heatblur is working on an Iranian 1970s F-14A for the F-14 module. Anyway in terms of avionics, is there any clear idea on how much if any the F-14A was than what was planned for the F-111B ?

[F-2]

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth40474/
 

here’s the cockpit mock up, sure looks similar. Radar was to have been AWG-9.

[upyr1]

On 8/3/2024 at 6:06 PM, F-2 said:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth40474/
 

here’s the cockpit mock up, sure looks similar. Radar was to have been AWG-9.

Thanks, I knew the radar was going to be the same as were the engines.  I posted a thread about the F-111B here as well

Due to the fact the F-111B was still in development when the program was canceled, there might not be any manuals available.  However even if there is plenty of documentation there would still be the question if the community would even be interested in the F-111B?  

I'll state despite the fact I posted both threads, I honestly don't expect to see an F-111B outside of a community module. If it were possible to get the F-111B officially I don't think I would be inclined to purchase it though I wouldn't complain if it were part of an F-111 module but I wouldn't expect it to happen. 

[F-2]

59 minutes ago, upyr1 said:

Thanks, I knew the radar was going to be the same as were the engines.  I posted a thread about the F-111B here as well

Due to the fact the F-111B was still in development when the program was canceled, there might not be any manuals available.  However even if there is plenty of documentation there would still be the question if the community would even be interested in the F-111B?  

I'll state despite the fact I posted both threads, I honestly don't expect to see an F-111B outside of a community module. If it were possible to get the F-111B officially I don't think I would be inclined to purchase it though I wouldn't complain if it were part of an F-111 module but I wouldn't expect it to happen. 

Sure, I have the manual. I don’t think it would be hard to track down other stuff if you really wanted it.

[Kalasnkova74]

On 8/5/2024 at 8:05 AM, upyr1 said:

Thanks, I knew the radar was going to be the same as were the engines.  I posted a thread about the F-111B here as well

Due to the fact the F-111B was still in development when the program was canceled, there might not be any manuals available.  However even if there is plenty of documentation there would still be the question if the community would even be interested in the F-111B?  

I'll state despite the fact I posted both threads, I honestly don't expect to see an F-111B outside of a community module. If it were possible to get the F-111B officially I don't think I would be inclined to purchase it though I wouldn't complain if it were part of an F-111 module but I wouldn't expect it to happen. 

The F-111B falls into that weird category of planes where there’s community interest, but the plane doesn’t really fit into a mission set except intercepting bombers.
 

The U.S. Navy’s F-111B was to to be a super-F-4B, meaning a pure long range bomber killing interceptor. It wasn’t designed to turnfight (which undermines Adm Tom Conollys assertion “there was not enough thrust in Christendom to make (the F-111B) a fighter” - because it was never designed for that mission in the first place) , and it wasn’t tested with air to ground payloads. So you’d have a Phoenix missile shooting airplane that performs worse in every metric than the existing F-14A, and it can’t carry air to ground stores like the Air Force F-111s. 
 

The same issue affects all dedicated interceptors like the Su-15, MiG-25, F-102/F-106 and F-101B. They can’t effectively turn fight and shoot down bandits , and they can’t strike air to ground targets. That makes them DOA as paid modules. 

[upyr1]

10 hours ago, Kalasnkova74 said:

The F-111B falls into that weird category of planes where there’s community interest, but the plane doesn’t really fit into a mission set except intercepting bombers.
 

The U.S. Navy’s F-111B was to to be a super-F-4B, meaning a pure long range bomber killing interceptor. It wasn’t designed to turnfight (which undermines Adm Tom Conollys assertion “there was not enough thrust in Christendom to make (the F-111B) a fighter” - because it was never designed for that mission in the first place) , and it wasn’t tested with air to ground payloads. So you’d have a Phoenix missile shooting airplane that performs worse in every metric than the existing F-14A, and it can’t carry air to ground stores like the Air Force F-111s. 
 

The same issue affects all dedicated interceptors like the Su-15, MiG-25, F-102/F-106 and F-101B. They can’t effectively turn fight and shoot down bandits , and they can’t strike air to ground targets. That makes them DOA as paid modules. 

If we ever see an F-111B I think it would be a community module. 

[deltahawk2020s]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlNifUIqns8

Excellent video on the F111B.

[Lurker]

If someone would want do a proper interdiction\bomber aardvark, I think there would be a lot of interest. An Interceptor version will always be just a niche, within a niche. Not happening. 

[felixx75]

I for one would not buy an F-111B, because why should I. The F-14 we already have can do everything better.
But I would immediately buy an F-111D or even an F.

[DarkJedi_7]

[Cab]

On 9/7/2024 at 2:17 AM, felixx75 said:

I for one would not buy an F-111, ...

If you're still talking about the B model, then I wouldn't either. I tend to buy all the new aircraft just to have them, but I think I'd wait for the F-111B to be at least 50% off.

The Air Force versions are a different story.

[felixx75]

6 hours ago, Cab said:

If you're still talking about the B model, then I wouldn't either. I tend to buy all the new aircraft just to have them, but I think I'd wait for the F-111B to be at least 50% off.

The Air Force versions are a different story.

If you quote me, please do so correctly. I wrote that I would not buy an F-111B but would buy an F-111D immediately (or an F).

Edited December 26, 2024 by felixx75

[Cab]

36 minutes ago, felixx75 said:

If you quote me, please do so correctly. I wrote that I would not buy an F-111B but would buy an F-111D immediately (or an F).

Sorry, I probably accidentally deleted the “B” when I deleted the rest of your post.