TERRIBLE STUTTERING SINCE LAST UPDATE

[Rene Coulon]

I have a home system when 2 players can play in MP on a closed system. The mission I have made have been super smooth in 2.8. After the last updates the stuttering and multiple freezes make the missions unplayable.

 

Nothing has changed on my side, Gone from a steady 120 FPS in 2D to 30 /70 FPS

 

The second player is glitchy as heck.

My SPECS, Intel i7 8700k, 64 GB RAM, GTX 2080ti game on m.2 drive.

dcs.log dcs.log.old debrief.log

Prior to the update...at the same place in this mission...these lines were both almost smooth, the change is just riduculous

Edited August 14, 2024 by Rene Coulon
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[The_Nephilim]

Hello, do you use any mods for the game?? Try disabling them and run clean and slow repair.. I would delete FXO and metashaders folders. also do you use process lasso it looks like some cores are disabled or similar:

 

 

2024-08-14 09:30:46.651 WARNING EDCORE (Main): logical core 7 is not available for this process
2024-08-14 09:30:46.651 WARNING EDCORE (Main): logical core 8 is not available for this process
2024-08-14 09:30:46.651 WARNING EDCORE (Main): logical core 9 is not available for this process
2024-08-14 09:30:46.651 WARNING EDCORE (Main): logical core 10 is not available for this process
2024-08-14 09:30:46.651 WARNING EDCORE (Main): logical core 11 is not available for this process

Edited August 15, 2024 by The_Nephilim

[Rene Coulon]

Hi, I dont have any Mods, I have deleted FXO and Metashaders, I do run Lasso. Whats super annoying is how we have to do deep dives into our systems, just to recover lost performance, after Avery Update, really killing the Sim for many people.

 

How do I make sure those cores are available for this process ?

[PawlaczGMD]

I also experience some stutter after the last update. It is interestingly not happening in the cockpit, but in the menus, and when using external views. This is new.

[Bingo911]

New stutters. Sinai and Syria are especially bad.

[RoXzz84]

The stuttering is really bad for me as well, i can't seem to have an enjoyable experience with DCS since the last few updates even with my specs - 13900KF, 64gb Rams, 4090, 2TB M.2. Hopefully it's resolve soon, BUZZ KILL...

Edited August 16, 2024 by RoXzz84

[The_Nephilim]

17 hours ago, Rene Coulon said:

Hi, I dont have any Mods, I have deleted FXO and Metashaders, I do run Lasso. Whats super annoying is how we have to do deep dives into our systems, just to recover lost performance, after Avery Update, really killing the Sim for many people.

 

How do I make sure those cores are available for this process ?

I forget the exact terminology but in Process Lasso there is a way to disable cores you might have mistakenly done that. 

[Rene Coulon]

5 hours ago, The_Nephilim said:

I forget the exact terminology but in Process Lasso there is a way to disable cores you might have mistakenly done that. 

I figured it out, Thanx, made so dissernable difference unfortunately. What is confusing me, is that on a stress test mission...I have lots of AI Planes flying, seems ok, but on another mission, same map...with a lot fewer AI airborne, the stuttering is really bad. Looks like either a particular unit, or a combination of ground units might be the problem...will keep digging today

[Darcaem]

1 hour ago, Rene Coulon said:

I figured it out, Thanx, made so dissernable difference unfortunately. What is confusing me, is that on a stress test mission...I have lots of AI Planes flying, seems ok, but on another mission, same map...with a lot fewer AI airborne, the stuttering is really bad. Looks like either a particular unit, or a combination of ground units might be the problem...will keep digging today

Please do share your findings. I also have the same feeling as you, but so far I have not been able to discern which specific unit or static makes the difference

Edit: BTW, I did read somewhere on the forum a couple of weeks ago that the door gunner hook script for the OH6A was causing problems, and deleting it was a huge improvement (the problem persists, but it did make a difference). It is located in [..]\DCS\Scripts\Hooks

Edited August 16, 2024 by Darcaem

[CaptHawk]

I have this issue on a dedicated server, but the same mission does fine if I host it multiplayer through the M.E. on my gaming computer. Also using project lasso on the dedicated, no cores disabled...

So I'm still looking over the server machine, thinking a re install or long repair is in order. The server machine worked fine before the update also.

[223rd Brian]

Mine was caused by streamdeck running in the background. 

 

stuttering happened if dcsexport was disabled, but streamdeck was running. streamdeck profile still runs a dcsinterface.exe that was causing the issue.

 

hope this helps, I love you

[Dangerzone]

2 hours ago, 223rd Brian said:

Mine was caused by streamdeck running in the background. 

stuttering happened if dcsexport was disabled, but streamdeck was running. streamdeck profile still runs a dcsinterface.exe that was causing the issue.

Interesting. Thanks for letting us know.

Can you use process lasso to isolate stream deck and DCS interface.exe from DCS to see if that helps? I don’t use stream deck myself so don’t believe this is why I’m seeing the cpu pegged at the load screen, but anything that helps is good to know. 

2 hours ago, 223rd Brian said:

hope this helps, I love you

Thanks. Love you too.

[Slippa]

3 hours ago, 223rd Brian said:

hope this helps, I love you

After a session of stuttering and crashes to desktop, this helped me at least. It hasn’t fixed anything, only my mood as I went from frowning to spitting my drink everywhere laughing. 

cheers.

[Rene Coulon]

22 hours ago, Darcaem said:

Please do share your findings. I also have the same feeling as you, but so far I have not been able to discern which specific unit or static makes the difference

Edit: BTW, I did read somewhere on the forum a couple of weeks ago that the door gunner hook script for the OH6A was causing problems, and deleting it was a huge improvement (the problem persists, but it did make a difference). It is located in [..]\DCS\Scripts\Hooks

 

Hi, Testing continues, the test mission can run over 150 AI aircraft no issues, with 20 ships and 20 vehicles. I think its pointing to TEMPLATES, but will try and isolate this theory properly.

I can place for example 30 Bofors guns no big change, but when I put down 3 Templates or less...made using the ME so say 1 Bofor, 3 soldiers and a jeep, stuttering starts.

 

I just want to confirm this more...

[Rene Coulon]

On 8/16/2024 at 10:54 AM, Darcaem said:

Please do share your findings. I also have the same feeling as you, but so far I have not been able to discern which specific unit or static makes the difference

Edit: BTW, I did read somewhere on the forum a couple of weeks ago that the door gunner hook script for the OH6A was causing problems, and deleting it was a huge improvement (the problem persists, but it did make a difference). It is located in [..]\DCS\Scripts\Hooks

 

Huge SP performance degradation with 2.9.7.58923 and 2.9.6.58056 compared to DCS 2.9.5.55918

 

Have a look at this Thread...for me, with the mission I build its the number of ground units Ratio to AI Aircraft airborne thats causing all my stutters. The number of ground units iin ST that my system could cope with was around 1200 with 30 Aircraft airborne, that dropped to around 750 with MT, then crashed again after the last update to just 350 or so. Something is very seriously conflicting deep inside our SIM

[223rd Brian]

Double update. I found streamdeck was causing issues because my usb power settings reset in windows; because magic

 

disabled power saving and stutters completely resolved even when running streamdeck, upping graphics settings, and other programs.

 

Hope this helps, I love you

[Ramstein]

not sure if you guys use Nvidia video cards, but I had to remove the last released video drivers and roll back to the previous, because they were horrible for me, but I use VR.