FPS are Atrocious on F-4 Module!

[JOEM423]

I have an Nvidia 4070ti! Every module runs great with every setting Maxed and a sky full of planes, up to 24! This F-4 Module gives me 7FPS which is a Big Joke! And this isn't funny, you've ruined the game! And I'm Using Multithread! Pleas fix it because this F-4 Module is rediculous to play! When I use the F-14 on a Carrier deck full of Planes, Ships, and up to 24 t0 30 planes, my min FPS would be 45 to 60! You all should be ashamed to release the F-4 module like this. And Ive got a 4ghz machine w 64 meg ram running the 4070ti. Fix it cause this a bad joke!!! With 2 flights of Mig21's and my flight of 4 F-4's yields 7FPS!!!!! What a freakin Joke!!!!!

TIA

Joe

[ricktoberfest]

7 minutes ago, JOEM423 said:

I have an Nvidia 4070ti! Every module runs great with every setting Maxed and a sky full of planes, up to 24! This F-4 Module gives me 7FPS which is a Big Joke! And this isn't funny, you've ruined the game! And I'm Using Multithread! Pleas fix it because this F-4 Module is rediculous to play! When I use the F-14 on a Carrier deck full of Planes, Ships, and up to 24 t0 30 planes, my min FPS would be 45 to 60! You all should be ashamed to release the F-4 module like this. And Ive got a 4ghz machine w 64 meg ram running the 4070ti. Fix it cause this a bad joke!!! With 2 flights of Mig21's and my flight of 4 F-4's yields 7FPS!!!!! What a freakin Joke!!!!!

TIA

Joe

If you’re running your computer at max setting with a 4070ti you’re already doing it wrong. Also comparing a scene on a carrier vs land is apples to oranges. While I would love more Phantom love I get an easy locked 55fps with the phantom in VR with a computer that’s several years out of date now. A lot of those settings that you’ve maxed out are really only for screenshots - not every day use. 
 

unless of course you’re exaggerating and being a drama queen 

[JOEM423]

51 minutes ago, ricktoberfest said:

If you’re running your computer at max setting with a 4070ti you’re already doing it wrong. Also comparing a scene on a carrier vs land is apples to oranges. While I would love more Phantom love I get an easy locked 55fps with the phantom in VR with a computer that’s several years out of date now. A lot of those settings that you’ve maxed out are really only for screenshots - not every day use. 
 

unless of course you’re exaggerating and being a drama queen 

Rediculous, The F-14 runs maxed out and my lowest FPS are around 40FPS on a deck full of planes and dozens of planes incoming! if your so smart, what settings are you running at. My PC is 4 years old and never have I seen lower frame rates than with the F-4!!!!!!

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

Have you deleted your shader cache?

Edited August 30, 2024 by MiG21bisFishbedL

[JOEM423]

2 minutes ago, MiG21bisFishbedL said:

Have you deleted your shader cache?

 

Yes I have, But Im waiting for a reasonable explanation why FPS will goto 7FPS at lower settings, than when I run the F-14 at Maxed out settings with the lowest FPS not dropping below 40FPS with a carrier deck full of planes taking off and dozens aircraft incoming with most in combat!!!!! I'm waiting for a rational explanation! i don't think the F-4 module is complete and full of memory leaks for the F-4 frames to be that bad!!!!!

[The_Nephilim]

umm, could you please provide a recent log after this flight with the F4?? just coming here and blaming the game and then give no log files or even a trk file is of no help..

Edited August 31, 2024 by The_Nephilim

[ricktoberfest]

3 hours ago, JOEM423 said:

Rediculous, The F-14 runs maxed out and my lowest FPS are around 40FPS on a deck full of planes and dozens of planes incoming! if your so smart, what settings are you running at. My PC is 4 years old and never have I seen lower frame rates than with the F-4!!!!!!

This is on an AMD 5600x with a 6950xt GPU and 32Gb ram

Edited August 31, 2024 by ricktoberfest

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

9 hours ago, JOEM423 said:

Yes I have, But Im waiting for a reasonable explanation why FPS will goto 7FPS at lower settings, than when I run the F-14 at Maxed out settings with the lowest FPS not dropping below 40FPS with a carrier deck full of planes taking off and dozens aircraft incoming with most in combat!!!!! I'm waiting for a rational explanation! i don't think the F-4 module is complete and full of memory leaks for the F-4 frames to be that bad!!!!!

Then you should have asked in the F-4 section.

For the record, I'm running a 3080 and i7 13700k while never dipping below 60, with most things maxed.

[Lt_Jaeger]

Had it once, did a repair and shader delete and everything is back to normal. 

Figured this stuff out myself without yelling and finger pointing. 

[Ithronwise]

12 hours ago, JOEM423 said:

Yes I have, But Im waiting for a reasonable explanation why FPS will goto 7FPS at lower settings, than when I run the F-14 at Maxed out settings with the lowest FPS not dropping below 40FPS with a carrier deck full of planes taking off and dozens aircraft incoming with most in combat!!!!! I'm waiting for a rational explanation! i don't think the F-4 module is complete and full of memory leaks for the F-4 frames to be that bad!!!!!

The most reasonable explanation in most cases is a misconfigured system and/or an unclean/faulty DCS installation. The F-4E is much more complex than other modules (including the F-14), so the likelihood of a misconfigured system or an unclean DCS installation leading to low frame rates is much higher.

Edited August 31, 2024 by Ithronwise

[JOEM423]

16 hours ago, Ithronwise said:

The most reasonable explanation in most cases is a misconfigured system and/or an unclean/faulty DCS installation. The F-4E is much more complex than other modules (including the F-14), so the likelihood of a misconfigured system or an unclean DCS installation leading to low frame rates is much higher.

 

ive repaired it several times, the f14 gives me no less than 50 fps! what would you suggest?

[rob10]

Post a log.  Might give some clues.  My 1st suggestion would be removing whatever MODS you have installed (esp. whatever you might have installed in the Saved Games folder).  There have been all kinds of weird interactions that give behaviour that makes no sense (i.e. F-14 fine, F-4 problem) over the years.  What you're seeing is pretty extreme and there would be pages of posts if the root problem was the F-4 being that bad.  Which suggests something different on your end is causing the issue you're seeing.

[JOEM423]

4 minutes ago, rob10 said:

Post a log.  Might give some clues.  My 1st suggestion would be removing whatever MODS you have installed (esp. whatever you might have installed in the Saved Games folder).  There have been all kinds of weird interactions that give behaviour that makes no sense (i.e. F-14 fine, F-4 problem) over the years.  What you're seeing is pretty extreme and there would be pages of posts if the root problem was the F-4 being that bad.  Which suggests something different on your end is causing the issue you're seeing.

Great Advice, Will Do!!!1 ill let you know~ thx

5 minutes ago, rob10 said:

Post a log.  Might give some clues.  My 1st suggestion would be removing whatever MODS you have installed (esp. whatever you might have installed in the Saved Games folder).  There have been all kinds of weird interactions that give behaviour that makes no sense (i.e. F-14 fine, F-4 problem) over the years.  What you're seeing is pretty extreme and there would be pages of posts if the root problem was the F-4 being that bad.  Which suggests something different on your end is causing the issue you're seeing.

great advice, I do have tons of mods! Ill let you know how it goes. TIA Joe

[Ithronwise]

5 hours ago, JOEM423 said:

great advice, I do have tons of mods! Ill let you know how it goes. TIA Joe

That's what I meant with "unclean" DCS installation. If you have any problems with DCS, the first step should be a cleanup and a slow repair including all files. If the issue persists also remove all mods in Saved Games\DCS. If you still have trouble after that rename your Saved Games\DCS folder and let DCS build a new one. That would be the right steps if you face an issue and not to come into the forum first and blame an official module. You can do this if all the other steps are not working.

Edited September 1, 2024 by Ithronwise

[JOEM423]

On 8/30/2024 at 9:31 PM, ricktoberfest said:

This is on an AMD 5600x with a 6950xt GPU and 32Gb ram

 

Thank You, I give these settings a try! nMuch Appreciated!!!