Super Hornet

[F-2]

For the moment I think the Legacy Hornet covers does most of what an early super hornet does, if we get a dynamic campaign I think a Super Hornet will have some advantages because of fuel and payload. Obviously not absolutely mandatory but I do hope it happens.

[Kev2go]

48 minutes ago, F-2 said:

For the moment I think the Legacy Hornet covers does most of what an early super hornet does, if we get a dynamic campaign I think a Super Hornet will have some advantages because of fuel and payload. Obviously not absolutely mandatory but I do hope it happens.

Aside from the obvious , bigger payload  of weapons and gas, the biggest difference was simply having the touchscreen UFCD which could if necessary be used as a 4th display and used for other things which was nice because the Hornet isn't as intuitive as the F16C or F15E ( swapping through different programmed per preference pages via hotas) Otherwise id say its very similar functionality to the legacy, and there aren't any massive technical leaps with block 1. stuff like the UFCD could have been modernized into legacy Hornets if the Navy really wanted. the Towed Decoy would of also been an appreciated feature. Legacy was supposed to have that via external hardpoiint mount at some pint verus the Super hornets internally carried system but that was canned from  F18 roadmap.

 

Another neat difference i recall is being able to use SA Format ( they call decided to call pages  formats in Super Hornet)  to lock a target without needing  to use the dedicated Radar Format on one of the other displays.  But i'm not sure if that was a new SH feature that legacies didn't have IRL or if that's just because MSI is undermodelled in the DCS legacy hornet.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2024 by Kev2go

[SkateZilla]

2 hours ago, Kev2go said:

 

i don't recall ever coming across legacy hornet tacmans either

But then again even tacpack Superhornet weapon systems procedurally from what i recalled was virtually identical to legacy features. Either they used legacy hornet tacmans as a stand in and hoped no one would notice or the F/A18E-F tacman they had for a block 1 super hornet really was similar to how Legacy hornet functions. Or they used Boeings avionics handbooks. Although i personally have not come across  Greybooks ( legacy) or goldbooks ( super) myself either.

LRIP used Legacy hornet procedures w/ some notes from Boeing for modifications, LRIP and Early Block I's were essentially transitional jets.

That being said, the Tacman for the Legacy is available if you fill out and submit the formal request and it's approved, so likely ED has done this as at one point or another there was an agreement of some type w/ Boeing.

The UFCD as a 3rd MPD was not enabled until later software updates, so LRIP jets only had the UFCD, the MDI Toggle wasn't enabled until later updates.

The entire Super Hornet cockpit was (sans a few instrument panels and EFIE) transplanted into late block Legacy hornets for Finland and Switzerland.

Edited November 3, 2024 by SkateZilla

[F-2]

I contacted DTIC, nothing super useful but some of these might be of value 

 

 

FOIA 2025-32-UL_19.xlsx FOIA 2025-32-U2_8.xlsx

[TheGhostOfDefi]

On 9/22/2024 at 12:14 PM, Ithronwise said:

You only could try to make a "this-should-be-close-enough" game in the best case. ED has a higher standard.

Aged Like milk huh?

Edited March 25 by TheGhostOfDefi

[Dragon1-1]

Not at all. They claim that they actually have the required info on the F-35. I suspect half the systems won't be present (those that weren't caught on some video), but ED insists that they have enough to make the jet.

That said, given the recent US track record with classified information, we could soon have all the data we'll ever need...  

Also, ED mentioned they want to make an early Super Hornet, but they want to get the Legacy out of EA first.

Edited March 25 by Dragon1-1