dirt-torpedo Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 Enjoy. http://www.apacheclips.com/media/6406/Russian_Pantsir-S1_--_best_air_defence_money_can_buy/ :pilotfly:
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 Nice! Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
GGTharos Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 I'd like to know how it stacks up against ADATS/HUMRAAM. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Vekkinho Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 Well that KAMAZ truck is twice the size of Hummer if that's what you're asking! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
X-man Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 I'd like to know how it stacks up against ADATS/HUMRAAM. It pwns them 64th Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 135.181.115.54
nscode Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 It would have no problem destroying the HUMRAAM from 5km :D Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
topol-m Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 Another impresive product of KBP Tula. Combined with the other "best air defence money can buy" - S-400 it will be pretty effective. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Boberro Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 I'd like to know how it stacks up against ADATS/HUMRAAM. Very nice RU vehicle I think it would pwnd your quoted :) Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 I'd like to know how it stacks up against ADATS/HUMRAAM.What kind of airplanes are those? :smartass: Reminder: SAM = Stealth STOP! Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
GGTharos Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 The kind that rapid-glide into other airplanes :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
topol-m Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 The kind that rapid-glide into other airplanes :D :helpsmilie: :joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
topol-m Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 The site of the manufacturer: http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/zencom/panz.htm And some photos (another 3 in photo/video thread) of the Pantsir-S1: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ED Team Groove Posted June 1, 2009 ED Team Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Russia Today, nice! I like! Bold words in that tv show. Edited June 1, 2009 by Groove Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Dusty Rhodes Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 Tunguska on Steroids. That thing looks to be BAD ASS for sure and with a 20 KM range. Though the trash talking saleman forget that they rely on radar and there vehicle will put a smile on the face of some F-16CJ driver ready to shove a harm down it's barrel. Dusty Rhodes Play HARD, Play FAIR, Play TO WIN Win 7 Professional 64 Bit / Intel i7 4790 Devils Canyon, 4.0 GIG /ASUS Maximus VII Formula Motherboard/ ASUS GTX 1080 8 GB/ 32 Gigs of RAM / Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / TrackIR 5 / 2 Cougar MFD's / Saitek Combat Pedals/ DSD Button Box FLT-1
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Tunguska on Steroids. That thing looks to be BAD ASS for sure and with a 20 KM range. Though the trash talking saleman forget that they rely on radar and there vehicle will put a smile on the face of some F-16CJ driver ready to shove a harm down it's barrel. ... or that HARM can be after a microwave oven nearby .. Or that HARM might be missing ENTIRE country all together and head for some microwave source tens or hundreds of kilometers from the Pantsir. Not to say that Pantsir, or for that matter, any system is perfect. Every system can be defeated, whether it is HARM or Pantser or ... Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Maximus_G Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Pantsir is officially claimed to be able to intercept high-precision weapons. Sooo, it has its teeth against anti-radiation systems too. While its mobility, joint operation abilities and improved ECM protection offer great potential in ambush tactics. Overall, it looks quite well.
GGTharos Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 No, it doesn't - HARM is supersonic, small RCS - smaller than the suersonic cruise missiles it's meant to intercept, and in the case of attack by HARMs its less likely to be getting a hand-off from a more powerful ship-borne search radar. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
topol-m Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 No, it doesn't - HARM is supersonic, small RCS - smaller than the suersonic cruise missiles it's meant to intercept, and in the case of attack by HARMs its less likely to be getting a hand-off from a more powerful ship-borne search radar. Well it shouldn`t be so difficult to dodge the HARM missile. A mobile target constantly changing position and turnig on/off its radar will have no problem with it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 What kind of missile is on Pantser? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
GGTharos Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Newest HARM uses MMW radar ... so it might not be so easy. ;) Well it shouldn`t be so difficult to dodge the HARM missile. A mobile target constantly changing position and turnig on/off its radar will have no problem with it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 It's a command-guided missile similar to the one used on Tunguska originally, but I am fairly certain it has a more advanced fuze among other things (thus turning it from an anti-helicopter missile to a missile capable of intercepting cruise missiles etc) What kind of missile is on Pantser? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
topol-m Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 What kind of missile is on Pantser? The 57E6-E: guidance: radar or electro-optical max range: 20 km altitude: 5m - 10 km warhead: 20 kg (frag-HE and multiple continuous rod) weight: 90 kg speed: 4680 km/h The missile has a bicalibre body in tandem configuration. The first stage is a booster, providing rapid acceleration within the first 2 second of flight, after it is separated from the sustainer-stage. The sustainer is the highly agile part of the missile and contains the high explosive multiple continuous rod and fragmentation warhead, contact and proximity fuses as also radio transponder and laser responder to be localised for guidance. The missile is not fitted with seeker to keep target engagement costs low. Instead high-precision target and missile tracking is provided via the systems multiband sensor system and guidance data is submitted via radio link for up to four missiles in flight. Missiles can be fired in at up to four targets but also salvos of two missiles at one target. Missile is believed to have a hit probability of 70-95% and have a 15 year storage lifetime in its sealed containers. Pantsir-S1 combat vehicles can fire missiles on the move [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Maximus_G Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 No, it doesn't - HARM is supersonic, Well, your opinion is quite the opposite to the official info. Effective engagement of all target types (foremost high-precision weapons and aviation means of their delivery) within the whole range of their combat application environments and counteraction capabilities, taking into account the prospects of their development till 2020–2025 Any signs of supersonic target type exclusion here? small RCS - smaller than the suersonic cruise missiles it's meant to intercept, I guess then its nose section is stealthy too! What detection range are you talking here about anyway? :D
GGTharos Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 It seems that the missile's range is a bit optimistic, as is the speed you listed. I can get either speed or range but not both. Maybe the parameters in my simulation are not correct (I cannot simulate a bi-caliber body) which is why. I had to put a LOT of fuel into it to make it work though, which I guess makes sense since half of it is a booster :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Force_Feedback Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 The Pantsir is a close range AD system, not a medium range one like the Buk/HUMRAAM. It's comparable to the Rapier-2000/atads system. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
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