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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, silverdevil said:

good to hear. let us know if there is any other anomalies.

So far it’s crashing due to some mods and I can live with that. Still testing in the vanilla environment. Deleting FXO and meta shaders folder before every start up to ensure it’s not the cause. 
 

for anyone experiencing crashes or BSODs in windows ELEVEN (not 10), windows Recall seems to be quite the intrusive culprit. Basically what Windows Recall does is take screenshots of your PC screen whenever it’s convenient for MS  and use the data to track you and sell to third parties. 
  This super secret program that windows makes very hard to disable and/or remove is mandatory as of update 24H2 release a few days ago but in time I’m sure we will see some way to get rid of it. Patience for now. 
 

Just Google “Windows 11 24H2 Windows RECALL” to get up to date on this and see what can be done. I’m holding off for now until more info on this app is released by independent media content creators. Not going to trust MS with this garbage app.

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On 10/19/2024 at 8:19 PM, MAXsenna said:

I probably read that one! emoji1.png

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I’ll check and make sure I have it. I assume updating to windows build 24H2 installed it but we know that they say when some assume 😂

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Posted
1 hour ago, Akula said:

So far it’s crashing due to some mods and I can live with that. Still testing in the vanilla environment. Deleting FXO and meta shaders folder before every start up to ensure it’s not the cause. 
 

for anyone experiencing crashes or BSODs in windows ELEVEN (not 10), windows Recall seems to be quite the intrusive culprit. Basically what Windows Recall does is take screenshots of your PC screen whenever it’s convenient for MS  and use the data to track you and sell to third parties. 
  This super secret program that windows makes very hard to disable and/or remove is mandatory as of update 24H2 release a few days ago but in time I’m sure we will see some way to get rid of it. Patience for now. 
 

Just Google “Windows 11 24H2 Windows RECALL” to get up to date on this and see what can be done. I’m holding off for now until more info on this app is released by independent media content creators. Not going to trust MS with this garbage app.

 

For those interested, here is a good walk through for disabling Windows Recall in 24H2 

 

 

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Posted (edited)

This is getting ridiculous.

I have ensured that:

- All drivers are up to date

- DCS has been repaired (the slow way)

- No mods in the game whatsoever

- BIOS up to date.

- All DCS folders pertaining to the game (except the downloads folder) has been added to the Defender Exclusion list.

- DCS profile in Nvidia has been untouched except for the setting "Prefer Maximum performance"

- Windows Recall disabled.

Like, I feel like Ive done absolutely EVERYTHING to get this F-ing game to work and nothing. Crash logs don't seem to reveal much but I'll attach anyways.

My GOD, DCS got it right with the patch before this and messed it up with the last one. F-ing frustrating to have to go back and forth  between it running all the time and it crashing all the time.

 

dcs.log

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  • MB: MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI
  • Memory: WD Black SN850X 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2
  • CPU: Intel Core i9-14900K Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) 36M Cache
  • EVGA 1200W Gold PSU
  • MSI RTX 3090
  • TrackIR on Samsung 49 inch Odyssey Widescreen
  • No money in my pocket lol
Posted
2 hours ago, Akula said:

This is getting ridiculous.

I have ensured that:

- All drivers are up to date

- DCS has been repaired (the slow way)

- No mods in the game whatsoever

- BIOS up to date.

- All DCS folders pertaining to the game (except the downloads folder) has been added to the Defender Exclusion list.

- DCS profile in Nvidia has been untouched except for the setting "Prefer Maximum performance"

- Windows Recall disabled.

Like, I feel like Ive done absolutely EVERYTHING to get this F-ing game to work and nothing. Crash logs don't seem to reveal much but I'll attach anyways.

My GOD, DCS got it right with the patch before this and messed it up with the last one. F-ing frustrating to have to go back and forth  between it running all the time and it crashing all the time.

the log you provided does not show a dcs crash. it just ends. it is liable to be windows crashing. can you look in the windows event logs corresponding to when the dcs.log ends prematurely?

2024-10-25 16:16:52

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Posted (edited)

@Akula

Sorry I didn’t read the whole thread. CTDs are often caused by the GPU. Are you running any overclocks? Updated the driver lately?

Just an unhelpful side note. Since you mentioned Recall, I assume you’re running 24H2 already. A big unforced error in my opinion. Any windows feature update should be postponed at least six month. They almost always cause headaches for early adopters.

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Posted
15 hours ago, Hiob said:

I assume you’re running 24H2 already. A big unforced error in my opinion.

i was postponing my candor. i agree. there are so many complaints about 24H2.

 

19 hours ago, Akula said:

Like, I feel like Ive done absolutely EVERYTHING to get this F-ing game to work and nothing.

just stay up to date with windows and drivers. it will eventually be stable. anyway to roll back to another version of 11?

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, silverdevil said:

i was postponing my candor. i agree. there are so many complaints about 24H2.

 

just stay up to date with windows and drivers. it will eventually be stable. anyway to roll back to another version of 11?

I’m starting to wonder the same thing. I don’t even think a system restore will remove it since MS really hates it when you try to go back to what works. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Akula said:

I’m starting to wonder the same thing. I don’t even think a system restore will remove it since MS really hates it when you try to go back to what works. 

 

Well, at the very least make a proper backup before you install feature updates. But I think everybody needs to feel the pain at least once (or more in my case 🤣) before learning that particular lesson.

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To anyone running a Z790 board with a 14900k and cannot get DCS to run stable. As a last ditch effort, try disabling hyperthreading and see if that solves it. I finally did it after a month of troubleshooting and despite trying to trigger a CTD or a BSOD, DCS will NOT crash. It’s super stable so far. Looking forward to finally getting to max out my system settings and using mods again  in DCS to make it look as good as it should given the components I’m now using. Quite honestly I have not noticed a drop in performance across all Windows 11 apps and programs. I’m also still running 16 cores with HT disabled so not missing hyperthreading at all. 😃

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