Asymmetric Loadout and Trim Characteristics.

[JupiterJoe]

When I have an asymmetric loadout, I find I cannot neutralize roll with trim.  Is this a bug?  Wouldn't Roll SAS dampen this out?  

It should be noted that I use a M/S Sidewinder FFB2 stick.

@IronMike

Edited November 26, 2024 by JupiterJoe

[Despayre]

Can you give us a specific loadout you're having trouble with? I haven't noticed that problem myself.

[JupiterJoe]

4 hours ago, Despayre said:

Can you give us a specific loadout you're having trouble with? I haven't noticed that problem myself.

Do you use FFB?

Every asymmetric layout.  Any loadout with a LAINTIRN as an example, but there are many more.  The aircraft rolls right/left but is never fully neutralised with trim.  

[Nealius]

I haven't noticed this either with the LANTIRN. I'm usually able to trim her for hands-off orbits in the CASE I marshal. Granted I am holding a bit of rudder to maintain that so perhaps there's some Dutch roll aiding the trim in that situation. The only payload I find difficult to trim--and handle in general--is TARPS.

[draconus]

9 hours ago, JupiterJoe said:

The aircraft rolls right/left but is never fully neutralised with trim.

Does AP help?

[JupiterJoe]

Yes @draconus, AP locks the attitude. I'm wondering if this inability to neutralise roll is specific to me (a worn FFB stick perhaps).  It feels like Roll SAS isn't working.  

Edited November 26, 2024 by JupiterJoe

[draconus]

Is it excessive? Like 1 degree/s or way less? Maybe you're expecting the trim to allow you prolonged hands-free flight while it's not its job at all.

[JupiterJoe]

6 hours ago, draconus said:

Is it excessive? Like 1 degree/s or way less? Maybe you're expecting the trim to allow you prolonged hands-free flight while it's not its job at all.

@draconus It seems excessive, because of how stable it is with a symmetrical loadout.  You cannot neutralise roll at all.  I've even tried putting in a little rudder trim. You must make constant adjustments.  If that's just the way it is in real flying then fine, but the guy above said he doesn't experience it and I don't seem to remember this being an issue with a spring-loaded joystick.

These issues may be specifically related to (perhaps just my) FFB.  Do you have FFB?

Perhaps it's connected to the AP switch not disengaging when Roll SAS is off.  Clutching at straws, I know.

In other news: Altitude Hold loses integrity at exactly 40 degrees wing sweep, anywhere above 15k feet. 

Edited November 26, 2024 by JupiterJoe