This F-15 pilot has had enough

[Hog_driver]

38 minutes ago, 336_TheAngryGamer said:

If they say it was improved, it was.

Maybe it was, it seems it no longer IS.

[draconus]

On 12/30/2024 at 1:31 PM, Hog_driver said:

I tried four times; the F-15 won once, the F-15 pilot ejected twice and the MiG-23 crashed once. Do you think it's a reasonable result for Ace AI?

Yes, given the unrealistic scenario you put them against - already close in, first pass restrictions, guns only. Not one time MiG wins. Normally it'd be killed or deterred in BVR.

That does not mean the AI does not need improvements though.

[Hog_driver]

19 minutes ago, draconus said:

Not one time MiG wins.

But it survived twice because the other pilot ejected. So it's kind of "win". The problem is that in those 4 cases, the F-15 was unable three times to shoot down its opponent.

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, Hog_driver said:

But it survived twice because the other pilot ejected. So it's kind of "win". The problem is that in those 4 cases, the F-15 was unable three times to shoot down its opponent.

if you wanted the F-15 to win all the time set them to ACE and the opponents at a lower skill level.  

[Hog_driver]

You know, I like the F-15 but it doesn't mean that I wanted to see it win all fights, just to feel good. 

I wanted to see how the AI manages turns, speed and other maneuvers and maybe learn something from it. Let's say I wasn't impressed.

I hope it'll be improved... in the future.

[draconus]

2 minutes ago, Hog_driver said:

The problem is that in those 4 cases, the F-15 was unable three times to shoot down its opponent.

If you only have guns and the enemy runs away jinking and avoiding clear shot there is no way to reliably get a hit, unless you're faster and get really close.

[Hog_driver]

1 minute ago, draconus said:

If you only have guns and the enemy runs away jinking and avoiding clear shot there is no way to reliably get a hit, unless you're faster and get really close.

Right. The problem is that the enemy wasn't jinking all the time, and the Eagle got "really close". It even overshot the MiG several times.

[BIGNEWY]

4 minutes ago, Hog_driver said:

You know, I like the F-15 but it doesn't mean that I wanted to see it win all fights, just to feel good. 

I wanted to see how the AI manages turns, speed and other maneuvers and maybe learn something from it. Let's say I wasn't impressed.

I hope it'll be improved... in the future.

In the future we will have GFM for the AI, its already in progress. 

thank you