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@graveyard4DCS that is a brilliant collection of articles you have written. I can highly recommend those for any one building missions even missions not for either of the two theaters of operation.

Well done !!!

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I am not sure if this was posted in the past or not. Gulf War first night targets map - with useful list of important targets. Interestingly it lists few places which may be locations of Taskforce Normandy EW radar sites or at least they may be close by - Wadi Al Khirr Airbase, Mudaysis AB and Al-Nukhib (Nukhayb)

Source: Gulf War Air Power Survey Vol. 1 (available online in redacted version - quite interesting read if you are into Desert Storm)

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I have done some further digging and it looks like these EW sites were moved at least twice before air campaign started. Initially they were reported to be as close as 1 mile from Saudi border, then they were moved between 20 to 47 Miles back into hardened position. Finally, they were moved again 10 miles closer to the border and consolidated into just 2 sites that were destroyed at the beginning. 

Source: 

On a Steel Horse I Ride > Air University (AU) > Air University Press

 

 

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On 12/31/2024 at 1:32 PM, NineLine said:

Oh, very cool I will check soon. Thanks so much for this!

@NineLine Hi bro, i hope the F-35 discussion get cold! Man, Have you been able to see or share my document attached to the beginning of the thread? greetings

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If you are interested, there are also several official US maps for Desert Storm (and Iraqi Freedom) available online.

Like this one:

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I turned it into .mbtiles file for those willing to use it in CombatFlite.

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6 hours ago, graveyard4DCS said:

If you are interested, there are also several official US maps for Desert Storm (and Iraqi Freedom) available online.

Like this one:

1991 - ODS Briefing Graphic - Small.jpg

I turned it into .mbtiles file for those willing to use it in CombatFlite.

yes sir! actually i already a member. I waiting the file tu put the AB on the map and replaced the Normandy map with the iraq map jejej thanks  regards!

 

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1. - ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT OF INTEREST:

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The Al Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center

The Al Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center, located 18 km southeast of Baghdad, was the main site for the Iraqi nuclear weapons program. Al Tuwaitha facilities cover over one square kilometer and included two research reactors (Osiraq and IRT-5000), a fuel fabrication facility, facilities for plutonium separation, uranium enrichment and other purposes. The Osiraq reactor was bombed by Israel in 1981 and the IRT-5000 research reactor was bombed by the U.S. during the Gulf War. Other facilities were damaged or destroyed during the Gulf War. Additional facilities at Al Tuwaitha were damaged or destroyed during Operation Iraqi Freedom and subsequent looting.

Most distinctive buildings:

Osiraq Reactor ( Tammuz-1): The French had agreed to supply a 40 MWth MTR reactor called Tammuz-1 or Osirak, a zero-power reactor called Tammuz-2, a materials testing hot laboratory (named LAMA), workshops, and a radioactive waste treatment station (named RWTS)

IRT-5000 nuclear reactor building 13: The IRT reactor. This facility also contained offices for the physics and chemistry departments. An extension in front of the reactor building was completed in about 1970 to house the new IBM mainframe computer which was installed in 1973, and to house part of the Physics Department. The reactor was upgraded in 1978 to 5 megawatt-thermal.

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I think the first thing that makes this place very characteristic is its defenses built on giant mounds of earth. Furthermore, it requires pilots to carry out very well-planned use of weapons, by other hand i could say that the Tammuz-1 reactor is the most important and iconic building in historical and cinematic terms inside the complex. We have already been able to see the videos of Grim reapers Bombing this reactor in their Operation Opera video, perhaps the first video made on the new map of Iraq. Also this building its particularly different and unique (Important for 80´s visual bombing). I will add a sequence of images that shows the place where both reactors were, in addition to images where you can see drawings and diagrams of the Tammuz-1 reactor building and real images of what it looks like today. i so sorry at this moment i dont have images of IRT-5000 Reactor. If somebody have pictures, please shared. 
Finally i will shared the images of others building around the Tammuz-1 reactor like the radioactive waste treatment station named RWTS, (ID 1, 2, 3 red numbers)

I will continue  on the next post. 


Sources:
https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/development-of-the-al-tuwaitha-site-what-if-the-public-or-the-iaea-had-over/9
https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/iraq-nuclear/
https://www-ns.iaea.org/downloads/rw/projects/iraq/documentation/wm07paper.pdf

 

Operation Opera F-16 Hud tape: 

 



 

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On 12/31/2024 at 1:32 PM, NineLine said:

Oh, very cool I will check soon. Thanks so much for this!

@NineLine Hi men! I hope it's very good!! Friend, have you had time to look at the document? In addition to that, this topic was delved into at the IRAQ nuclear research center, perhaps the most important point of interest in all of IRAQ. He has already appeared in several videos by big Youtubers. 

Please tell me, if this work and the one I am continuing is interesting for the map development team, it would be a great motivation to continue collecting information and images of other points of interest.

PD: in the Next post will going in deep of The Al-Mamoun Solid Rocket Motor Production Plant  related to the production of ballistic missiles launches from SCUD. A huge target!!!

 

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Regarding the search for the radar positions of Taskforce Normandy, I can perhaps make the following contributions:

I found a “Task Force Normandy Virtual Staff Ride” on the website of the “Army University Press” including accompanying documents.

Task Force Normandy Read Ahead Guidance and Packet

Task Force Normandy Visuals (Exportable)


The documents provide some good information, including MGRS coordinates from the used VBS3. However, the coordinates did not quite match the time and/or distance information. A search in the immediate vicinity via. Bing-Maps, Google-Maps and Apple-Maps produced a position for the western destination that actually matched quite well:

 

Target West:
Bing Maps: 32.47863, 40.178294
Apple Maps Beta: 32.47863, 40.178294

 

There is even a flight plan in the documents for the eastern target, which I was able to match quite well with the maps available in DCS, except for the actual target. The actual possible target area is very “rugged”, but even there I was able to find a possible position that would fit quite well with the distance information:

 

Target East:
Bing Maps: 31.825167, 41.040554
Apple Maps Beta: 31.825167, 41.040554

 


The target positions should be compared using the following information from the sources mentioned above:

•    The early warning radar targets were just north of the Saudi-Iraqi border.
•    The sites were separated by approximately 40 miles of open desert.
•    The two Teams (White and Red) lift of from Al Jouf, a joint airfield with a small single runway staging strip, northeast of Tabuk, and it was the closet Saudi airfield to the Iraqi border
•    The planned times were: Team White, would lift off at 12:56 a.m., followed five minutes later by Team Red. If all went according to plan, both teams would arrive at their destinations at exactly 2:38 a.m.
•    At 0056 on 17 January 1991, the first helicopters took off from Al Jouf headed toward their assigned targets.
•    Taskforce White had 10 Waypoints (See slide 23 in the visuals download (PowerPoint)): WP1 Starting point at Al Jouf, WP2 checkpoint, WP3 checkpoint with a course change, WP4 last checkpoint prior to crossing the border, WP5 green chem light, WP6 target location, WP7 checkpoint after re-crossing the border with a course change, WP8 checkpoint and course change at or next to Ar Ar, WP9 final checkpoint and course change, WP10 landing at Al Jouf end of mission
•    At 0212, the Task Force Normandy helicopters crossed into Iraq, varying their flight path as necessary to avoid known or suspected enemy observation posts or Bedouin locations.
•    The western target was 13 miles farther; the eastern target, 23 miles.  - (If the above-mentioned positions, or the positions to be found in the training documents, are even approximately correct, then this information (seen from the border) is exactly the opposite, namely the western target is further away from the border than the eastern target!)
•    To help the Apaches navigate during their final approach, the Pave Lows would drop a bundle of green infrared chemical lights at a preset point 9 miles from each target.  
•    Taskforce White: After traveling approximately 5-7 kilometers north, they reached their planned release point, which was northeast of the target site.  Coming in from this direction would hopefully help confuse any Iraqis on site who may have seen or heard the Apaches prior to execution.
•    Taskforce White: At exactly 0237:50, White Team Apache pilot Lieutenant Tom Drew keyed his radio and broadcast, “Party in 10.”  
•    Taskforce White: Precisely ten seconds later, all crews began firing their Hellfire missiles.  Twenty seconds later, the deadly weapons began to detonate against the structures.

•    The target sites each consist of 1x Spon Rest radar, 1x Squateye radar, 1x Flatface radar, 1x troposcatter communication shelter and antenna, 2-4 Generators, 1x operation van, 1x electronic warfare van, barraks and 3x ZPU-4 antiaircraft guns, divers fuel containers and additional trucks with trailers
•    The final configuration for the TF Normandy aircraft was decided to be 1200 rounds of 30mm, one 2.75-inch rocket pod, two Hellfire missile launchers, and one 230-gallon Extended Range Fuel System tank
•    The concept for the attack was to engage the target with Hellfires at approximately 6 kilometers.  After all of the Hellfires were expended, the Apaches were to move to 4 kilometers and started firing Multipurpose Sub-Munitions (MPSM) rockets and at 2 kilometers from the sites, they were to engage with their 30mm chain guns to destroy whatever remained of the compounds until they were out of ammunition.
•    Taskforce White: The Apaches then flew south, crossed the border, and linked back up with the Pave Lows, who led the team back to Al Jouf.

And yes, I know there's a lot of speculation in the whole thing!

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20 hours ago, birkenmoped said:

En relación con la búsqueda de las posiciones de radar de la Taskforce Normandía, quizá pueda hacer las siguientes aportaciones:

Encontré un “ Viaje virtual del personal de la Fuerza de Tarea Normandía ” en el sitio web de “Army University Press”, incluidos los documentos adjuntos.

Paquete de orientación

Visuales


Los documentos proporcionan información útil, incluidas las coordenadas MGRS del VBS2 utilizado. Sin embargo, las coordenadas no coincidían exactamente con la información de tiempo y/o distancia. Una búsqueda en las inmediaciones a través de Bing-Maps, Google-Maps y Apple-Maps arrojó una posición para el destino occidental que realmente coincidía bastante bien:

 

Destino Oeste:
Bing Maps: 32.47863, 40.178294
Apple Maps Beta: 32.47863, 40.178294

 

En los documentos hay incluso un plan de vuelo para el objetivo oriental, que pude hacer coincidir bastante bien con los mapas disponibles en DCS, excepto por el objetivo real. La zona del posible objetivo real es muy "accidentada", pero incluso allí pude encontrar una posible posición que encajaba bastante bien con la información de distancia:

 

Destino Este:
Bing Maps: 31.825167, 41.040554
Apple Maps Beta: 31.825167, 41.040554

 


Las posiciones objetivo deben compararse utilizando la siguiente información de las fuentes mencionadas anteriormente:

• Los objetivos del radar de alerta temprana estaban justo al norte de la frontera entre Arabia Saudita e Irak.
• Los sitios estaban separados por aproximadamente 40 millas de desierto abierto.
• Los dos equipos (blanco y rojo) despegaron desde Al Jouf, un aeródromo conjunto con una pequeña pista de preparación de una sola pista, al noreste de Tabuk, y era el aeródromo saudí más cercano a la frontera iraquí.
• Los horarios planeados eran: el equipo blanco despegaría a las 12:56 am, seguido cinco minutos después por el equipo rojo. Si todo iba según lo planeado, ambos equipos llegarían a sus destinos exactamente a las 2:38 am.
• A las 0056 del 17 de enero de 1991, los primeros helicópteros despegaron de Al Jouf en dirección a sus objetivos asignados.
• La Taskforce White tenía 10 puntos de referencia (ver diapositiva 23 en la descarga de imágenes (PowerPoint)): WP1 Punto de partida en Al Jouf, WP2 Puesto de control, WP3 Puesto de control con un cambio de rumbo, WP4 Último puesto de control antes de cruzar la frontera, WP5 Luz química verde, WP6 Ubicación del objetivo, WP7 Puesto de control después de volver a cruzar la frontera con un cambio de rumbo, WP8 Puesto de control y cambio de rumbo en o cerca de Ar Ar, WP9 Puesto de control final y cambio de rumbo, WP10 Aterrizaje en Al Jouf al final de la misión.
• A las 0212, los helicópteros de la Taskforce Normandy cruzaron a Irak, variando su ruta de vuelo según fuera necesario para evitar puestos de observación enemigos conocidos o sospechosos o ubicaciones beduinas.
• El objetivo occidental estaba 13 millas más lejos; el objetivo oriental, 23 millas. - (Si las posiciones mencionadas anteriormente, o las posiciones que se encuentran en los documentos de entrenamiento, son incluso aproximadamente correctas, entonces esta información (vista desde la frontera) es exactamente la opuesta, es decir, el objetivo occidental está más lejos de la frontera que el objetivo oriental).
• Para ayudar a los Apaches a navegar durante su aproximación final, los Pave Lows dejarían caer un haz de luces químicas infrarrojas verdes en un punto preestablecido a 9 millas de cada objetivo.  
• Taskforce White: Después de viajar aproximadamente 5-7 kilómetros al norte, llegaron a su punto de liberación planeado, que estaba al noreste del sitio objetivo. Venir desde esta dirección con suerte ayudaría a confundir a cualquier iraquí en el sitio que pudiera haber visto u oído a los Apaches antes de la ejecución.
• Taskforce White: Exactamente a las 0237:50, el piloto del Equipo Apache Blanco, el teniente Tom Drew, activó su radio y transmitió: "Fiesta en 10".  
• Taskforce White: Exactamente diez segundos después, todas las tripulaciones comenzaron a disparar sus misiles Hellfire. Veinte segundos después, las armas mortales comenzaron a detonar contra las estructuras.

• Los sitios objetivo consisten cada uno de: 1x radar Spon Rest, 1x radar Squateye, 1x radar Flatface, 1x refugio de comunicación troposcatter y antena, 2-4 generadores, 1x camioneta de operaciones, 1x camioneta de guerra electrónica, cuarteles y 3x cañones antiaéreos ZPU-4, contenedores de combustible para buzos y camiones adicionales con remolques
• La configuración final para el avión TF Normandy se decidió que fuera de 1200 rondas de 30 mm, un contenedor de cohetes de 2,75 pulgadas, dos lanzadores de misiles Hellfire y un tanque de sistema de combustible de alcance extendido de 230 galones
• El concepto para el ataque era atacar el objetivo con Hellfires a aproximadamente 6 kilómetros. Después de que se gastaran todos los Hellfires, los Apaches debían moverse a 4 kilómetros y comenzar a disparar cohetes de submuniciones multipropósito (MPSM) y a 2 kilómetros de los sitios, debían atacar con sus cañones de cadena de 30 mm para destruir lo que quedara de los compuestos hasta que se quedaran sin municiones.
• Grupo de trabajo White: Los Apaches luego volaron hacia el sur, cruzaron la frontera y se conectaron nuevamente con los Pave Lows, quienes llevaron al equipo de regreso a Al Jouf.

¡Y sí, sé que hay mucha especulación en todo esto!

thanks a lot for this information! i will be the main info for recreat this mission for sure. 

 

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6 hours ago, Kurnass1977 said:

Pienso que otro lugar importante fue la instalación de producción de superfosfato de Al Qaim, que atrajo muchos ataques aéreos.

I have added it to the initial report on page one, including several photographs of the moment, but I have prioritized the approach of creating a new post with more information about some of these POIs in importance for the gameplay from my point of view, I will surely dedicate a post to it. 

What worries me now and I want to be honest is that ED (Nineline or anyone else) has not given any positive or negative feedback other than they will "review" the information, which they posted 1 month and a half ago. ( i think its important to continue this effort and i tell u why)

I started this Topic because looking at the map and reading the posts of other users and nineline, I saw that some customers were complaining about the few areas of detail of relevance and I also saw that ninelines asked them for patience and for us to indicate what the POIs are for us, because of that i started this work and Well, here there are POI with luxury and detail, images, exact locations, history and relationship with current conflicts, which would help a lot to make a difference between a map for MSFS and a map for DCS. The truth is I'm a little discouraged by the lack of feedback without considering that it's been almost 2 months since the map was released without any news or new update, the patience that goes hand in hand with trust is created based on communication.

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Hi,Huilque151,do you see these building I send to the "Wish List“?I think the most important is”AT&T Building“ (بدالة السنك-Al Sinak Telephone Exchange) at the 33°19'52"N 44°24'7"E.

Al-Sinak Telephone Exchange is the famous and building in baghdad since 1970's.

It's being damaged during gulf war and Iraq war as the target.

Furthermore,It's now still play the irreplaceable role on the baghdad city.

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However,at the DCS:Iraq Map, In these place I don't see even any high building.

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En 8/2/2025 a las 20:37, birkenmoped dijo:

En relación con la búsqueda de las posiciones de radar de la Taskforce Normandía, quizá pueda hacer las siguientes aportaciones:

Encontré un “ Viaje virtual del personal de la Fuerza de Tarea Normandía ” en el sitio web de “Army University Press”, incluidos los documentos adjuntos.

Guía y paquete de lectura anticipada del grupo de trabajo Normandía

Imágenes de la Task Force Normandy (exportables)


Los documentos proporcionan información útil, incluidas las coordenadas MGRS del VBS3 utilizado. Sin embargo, las coordenadas no coincidían exactamente con la información de tiempo y/o distancia. Una búsqueda en las inmediaciones a través de Bing-Maps, Google-Maps y Apple-Maps arrojó una posición para el destino occidental que realmente coincidía bastante bien:

 

Destino Oeste:
Bing Maps: 32.47863, 40.178294
Apple Maps Beta: 32.47863, 40.178294

 

En los documentos hay incluso un plan de vuelo para el objetivo oriental, que pude hacer coincidir bastante bien con los mapas disponibles en DCS, excepto por el objetivo real. La zona del posible objetivo real es muy "accidentada", pero incluso allí pude encontrar una posible posición que encajaba bastante bien con la información de distancia:

 

Destino Este:
Bing Maps: 31.825167, 41.040554
Apple Maps Beta: 31.825167, 41.040554

 


Las posiciones objetivo deben compararse utilizando la siguiente información de las fuentes mencionadas anteriormente:

• Los objetivos del radar de alerta temprana estaban justo al norte de la frontera entre Arabia Saudita e Irak.
• Los sitios estaban separados por aproximadamente 40 millas de desierto abierto.
• Los dos equipos (blanco y rojo) despegaron desde Al Jouf, un aeródromo conjunto con una pequeña pista de preparación de una sola pista, al noreste de Tabuk, y era el aeródromo saudí más cercano a la frontera iraquí.
• Los horarios planeados eran: el equipo blanco despegaría a las 12:56 am, seguido cinco minutos después por el equipo rojo. Si todo iba según lo planeado, ambos equipos llegarían a sus destinos exactamente a las 2:38 am.
• A las 0056 del 17 de enero de 1991, los primeros helicópteros despegaron de Al Jouf en dirección a sus objetivos asignados.
• La Taskforce White tenía 10 puntos de referencia (ver diapositiva 23 en la descarga de imágenes (PowerPoint)): WP1 Punto de partida en Al Jouf, WP2 Puesto de control, WP3 Puesto de control con un cambio de rumbo, WP4 Último puesto de control antes de cruzar la frontera, WP5 Luz química verde, WP6 Ubicación del objetivo, WP7 Puesto de control después de volver a cruzar la frontera con un cambio de rumbo, WP8 Puesto de control y cambio de rumbo en o cerca de Ar Ar, WP9 Puesto de control final y cambio de rumbo, WP10 Aterrizaje en Al Jouf al final de la misión.
• A las 0212, los helicópteros de la Taskforce Normandy cruzaron a Irak, variando su ruta de vuelo según fuera necesario para evitar puestos de observación enemigos conocidos o sospechosos o ubicaciones beduinas.
• El objetivo occidental estaba 13 millas más lejos; el objetivo oriental, 23 millas. - (Si las posiciones mencionadas anteriormente, o las posiciones que se encuentran en los documentos de entrenamiento, son incluso aproximadamente correctas, entonces esta información (vista desde la frontera) es exactamente la opuesta, es decir, el objetivo occidental está más lejos de la frontera que el objetivo oriental).
• Para ayudar a los Apaches a navegar durante su aproximación final, los Pave Lows dejarían caer un haz de luces químicas infrarrojas verdes en un punto preestablecido a 9 millas de cada objetivo.  
• Taskforce White: Después de viajar aproximadamente 5-7 kilómetros al norte, llegaron a su punto de liberación planeado, que estaba al noreste del sitio objetivo. Venir desde esta dirección con suerte ayudaría a confundir a cualquier iraquí en el sitio que pudiera haber visto u oído a los Apaches antes de la ejecución.
• Taskforce White: Exactamente a las 0237:50, el piloto del Equipo Apache Blanco, el teniente Tom Drew, activó su radio y transmitió: "Fiesta en 10".  
• Taskforce White: Exactamente diez segundos después, todas las tripulaciones comenzaron a disparar sus misiles Hellfire. Veinte segundos después, las armas mortales comenzaron a detonar contra las estructuras.

• Los sitios objetivo consisten cada uno de: 1x radar Spon Rest, 1x radar Squateye, 1x radar Flatface, 1x refugio de comunicación troposcatter y antena, 2-4 generadores, 1x camioneta de operaciones, 1x camioneta de guerra electrónica, cuarteles y 3x cañones antiaéreos ZPU-4, contenedores de combustible para buzos y camiones adicionales con remolques
• La configuración final para el avión TF Normandy se decidió que fuera de 1200 rondas de 30 mm, un contenedor de cohetes de 2,75 pulgadas, dos lanzadores de misiles Hellfire y un tanque de sistema de combustible de alcance extendido de 230 galones
• El concepto para el ataque era atacar el objetivo con Hellfires a aproximadamente 6 kilómetros. Después de que se gastaran todos los Hellfires, los Apaches debían moverse a 4 kilómetros y comenzar a disparar cohetes de submuniciones multipropósito (MPSM) y a 2 kilómetros de los sitios, debían atacar con sus cañones de cadena de 30 mm para destruir lo que quedara de los compuestos hasta que se quedaran sin municiones.
• Grupo de trabajo White: Los Apaches luego volaron hacia el sur, cruzaron la frontera y se unieron nuevamente con los Pave Lows, quienes llevaron al equipo de regreso a Al Jouf.

¡Y sí, sé que hay mucha especulación en todo esto!

Excellent, thank you for the time and work invested in this search.

 

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On 10/2/2025 at 6:52, hitotose said:

Hola, Huilque151, ¿Ves estos edificios que envié a la "Lista de deseos"? Creo que el más importante es el "Edificio AT&T" (بدالة السنك - Central telefónica Al Sinak) en 33°19'52"N 44°24'7"E.

La central telefónica Al-Sinak es un edificio famoso en Bagdad desde los años 70.

Fue dañado durante la Guerra del Golfo y la Guerra de Irak como objetivo.

Además, todavía desempeña un papel irreemplazable en la ciudad de Bagdad.

Sin embargo, en el mapa de DCS: Irak, en estos lugares no veo ni siquiera ningún edificio alto.

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AWESOME WORK! 

AWESOME WORK!  didn't included because i was not pretty sure about the info related to this building on the ODS attacks, thanks for shared! I will included this info and pictures to my PDF.  

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7小时前,Huilque151说:

很棒的工作! 

太棒了!没有包括,因为我不太确定与 ODS 袭击有关的这座建筑的信息,谢谢分享!我会将这些信息和图片包含到我的 PDF 中。  

Thanks, according my research and communicat with iraq local, they confirm this building is the first building destroy in baghdad.

Also, you could look at my other building project——

 

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In Iraq Maps(The names of the buildings here are mainly based on the names of the coalition forces, although these buildings have related Arabic names.Arabic names always more accurate description of the building's function):

Secret Police HQ and AT&T Building never appear on the game map.

 

The Minister of Propaganda, Iraqi Air Force HQ, and Ministry of Defense National Computer Complex were replaced by simple, featureless buildings that look like residential houses.

 

But what confuses me most is the "National Air Defense Sector" that the coalition forces are targeting. I asked local Iraqis and searched for Arabic and English related information on Google, but I couldn't find any information. Moreover, since the Iraq War, Baghdad has expanded rapidly, and a military hospital has been built where the "National Air Defense Sector" used to be. Satellite photos from around 2005 show that the place was a factory. Can you find relevant information? In addition, I am fluent in Arabic, but only in standard Arabic. I am not familiar with the local Iraqi dialect. I can help you as much as possible.

 

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3 ore fa, applepiefrost ha scritto:

Don't have much to add to the topic, just wanted to thank everyone who has been posting in here for the absolute quality research. Great work! 

TRUE!

I'm quite interested in DS as I remember clearly when start, was called by my mom to see the news in tv and passed hpurs try to record om vhs the news of the differnt channels...

I researched as much possible infos for my model kits, but was a differnt kind or research that surely donìt sdd nothing of really important to the infos published in this thread.

Want only thanks everyone that shared his effort and cannot immagine a full Campaign. after all DCS had quite some module rapresenting planes involved in the conflict!

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Hi, I have also made a small list Air Bases in south and southwest Iraq that were targeted or used during one or more Operations (Iran-Iraq War, Desert storm, and Iraqi freedom).

To add to this topic I have also made some visual comparisons between current satellite imagery and what textures we already have ingame. I also added a source for most air bases mentioned, that tell us if these bases had any shelters, and if known, when they were used, abandonend or targeted.

I really hope some of them get added. I initially made this post because of the rather large vacuum of air bases in that region, but with further research I found out that these played a major role in several conflicts which makes them vital for making missions on this map.

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9 minutes ago, Reflected said:

Does anyone have a killbox map for OIF please?

You can see the CGRS map of Iraq here. You'll see the KB naming system for Desert Storm and for OEF. The naming system for OIF and OEF were the same for the whole CENTCOM AOR so it can easily be derived from the OEF one. 

You can contact me in PM if you'd like a custom map. 

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