rcjonessnp175 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Still ghosts with just dlaa on and no dlss, especially in vr. 1 I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted February 20 Posted February 20 I tried to run some benchmarks and DCS keeps on crashing, sometimes, I cannot even click on the start button. You guys may not have any issue but I think I cannot go on cause it is a waste of my time. I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
Qcumber Posted February 20 Posted February 20 7 hours ago, slowmover said: I was testing the new Dlss4 that came out the verzion v310.2.1 with preset K and i notice that a/c with MFD i have problem to see the numbers. I'm not seeing that with DLSS 4. The clarity of the cockpit and MFDs look better than with 3.8.10. 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64Gb RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - Quest Pro (previous rift s and Pico 4). Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
Fiztex Posted February 20 Posted February 20 (edited) DLAA for sure still ghosts against the ground, but not so much against the sky. Still nothing compared to the benefits. Edited February 20 by Fiztex 1 AMD 7800x3d + RTX 4090 + 64 GB RAM + VR Quest 3 VDXR
Qcumber Posted February 21 Posted February 21 13 hours ago, Fiztex said: DLAA for sure still ghosts against the ground, but not so much against the sky. Still nothing compared to the benefits. Increasing the resolution helps reduce ground ghosting for me. I use QVFR so this is easy to do just for the foveated region. You could try increasing your resolution and using DLSS quality to offset the reduction in performance to see if this helps. 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64Gb RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - Quest Pro (previous rift s and Pico 4). Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
markturner1960 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) Hi all, taken the plunge and tried this. I am using latest WHQL drivers and version 2.4.0.16 of inspector. I have downloaded and draggged into my DCS MT folder 3 files, nvngx_dlss, dlssd & dlssg. Trying to follow this guide: However, I dont see exactly what he shows, for example, at minute 2.30, what I see is different, I get this I do have some options about enabling DLL overide in the common section, so have enabled DLSS, FG & RR overide to use latest available. Seems to be working as I have some annoying text in the bottom of my FoV that says something about Preset C.... How can I get rid of teh text or make it readable, as when I try and look at it, it moves! Do I have it working as it should? Does look great and perform well.....Have set DLAA & DLSS sharpening in DCS options, quality rather than performance. Is all the above correct? Edited February 21 by markturner1960 System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor.
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) Well, my installation, in VR, still crashed after a while, even though I was not using DLSS, even though it lasted longer. May be it was not entirely DLSS4 problem. I am doing a clean install once again and see how it fares. I may have missed something as I am not aware of the 3 files, not just the nvngx_dlss.dll. I copy the file to both bin and bin-mt. Anyway, I think one should choose something like "Preset K". Edited February 21 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
Mr_sukebe Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Mark> If you can't see the configation options that you're looking for, they might be "hidden". There's a setting available in the top right area of the NVPI App that allows you to see "all", or "known" settings. For myself, it defaulted to "known" and I couldn't see them either. Confused the hell out of me. Change that setting to all, and scroll down the list (it's long). 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Fiztex Posted February 21 Posted February 21 4 часа назад, Qcumber сказал: Increasing the resolution helps reduce ground ghosting for me. I use QVFR so this is easy to do just for the foveated region. You could try increasing your resolution and using DLSS quality to offset the reduction in performance to see if this helps. No need for help, I know, I think I even suggested here or in parallel thread the same. It's all about resolution and refresh rate, and I'm completely fine with DLAA with Godlike VD and 1.1 PD on top + 80 Hz. QV is a must for DLAA, not using it is like loosing 50% of performance, if one has enough VRAM and a decent CPU. I have the settings in my signature as well, if someone cares to translate them into English. 1 AMD 7800x3d + RTX 4090 + 64 GB RAM + VR Quest 3 VDXR
motoadve Posted February 21 Posted February 21 What if I just replace the nvngx.dll file with the new one, I will be getting DLSS4, correct? Does anyone know what preset comes with the latest version? I just did it, looks better than before but not as good as with preset K, but performance is much better than with preset K I am staying with this for a while. The only reason to install Nvidia inspector or DLSS tweaks is to force the new preset, correct?
Fiztex Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 31 минуту назад, motoadve сказал: The only reason to install Nvidia inspector or DLSS tweaks is to force the new preset, correct? For DCS this is correct. As for performance, I think you should compare CNN (C, DCS default) quality with transformer (J/K) performance, and you'll be surprised. And especially so with quad views and ability of transformer to reconstruct a decent picture from very low resolution peripheral area of FOV in QV. I don't see a use case for CNN anymore in DCS. Edited February 21 by Fiztex AMD 7800x3d + RTX 4090 + 64 GB RAM + VR Quest 3 VDXR
motoadve Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Fiztex said: For DCS this is correct. As for performance, I think you should compare CNN quality with transformer performance, and you'll be surprised. And especially so with quad views and ability of transformer to reconstruct a decent picture from very low resolution peripheral area of FOV in QV. I don't see a use case for CNN anymore in DCS. What is CNN?
EightyDuce Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, motoadve said: What is CNN? Convolutional Neural Netwrok. Upscaling tech used in DLSS prior to transformer model being introduced in DLSS4. Windows 11 23H2| ASUS X670E-F STRIX | AMD 9800X3D@ 5.6Ghz | G.Skill 64Gb DDR5 6200 28-36-36-38 | RTX 4090 undervolted | MSI MPG A1000G PSU | VKB MCG Ultimate + VKB T-Rudders + WH Throttle | HP Reverb G2 Quest 3 + VD
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Clean install, no mods of any kind, restore only the f/a-18C and 3 maps, copy all 3 DLL files and update the overrides using NPI, still CTD... Gives up totally. I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
Qcumber Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 hours ago, Fiztex said: No need for help, I know, I think I even suggested here or in parallel thread the same. It's all about resolution and refresh rate, and I'm completely fine with DLAA with Godlike VD and 1.1 PD on top + 80 Hz. QV is a must for DLAA, not using it is like loosing 50% of performance, if one has enough VRAM and a decent CPU. I have the settings in my signature as well, if someone cares to translate them into English. Sorry. I should have checked your signature and translated. 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64Gb RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - Quest Pro (previous rift s and Pico 4). Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
Fiztex Posted February 21 Posted February 21 50 минут назад, Qcumber сказал: Sorry. I should have checked your signature and translated. No need to feel sorry, you definitely should not care about peoples signatures I didn't mean to offend anyone by saying "cares to translate", just wanted to point out that things are there in case someone is curious and wants to bother with translation. Russians, you know 1 AMD 7800x3d + RTX 4090 + 64 GB RAM + VR Quest 3 VDXR
Mordants Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 5 hours ago, motoadve said: What if I just replace the nvngx.dll file with the new one, I will be getting DLSS4, correct? Does anyone know what preset comes with the latest version? I just did it, looks better than before but not as good as with preset K, but performance is much better than with preset K I am staying with this for a while. The only reason to install Nvidia inspector or DLSS tweaks is to force the new preset, correct? I think you are sir. I just used DLSS swapper for ease. Along with NVIdia Inspector to get in my case J Edited February 21 by Mordants Additional info SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz, 3792 Mhz, 64Gb RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090, CONTROLS: VPC Rotor TCS Base, VPC Hawk-60 Collective Grip, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base, VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime [R], Thrustmaster Warthog – Throttle, Thrustmaster TPR - Pendular Rudder Pedals, Honeycomb Alpha Flight Control (For Anubis C-130 Hercules), Meta Quest Pro. SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11,
WipeUout Posted February 21 Posted February 21 If you use Nvidia driver 572.XX, there is no need to copy any dll to your DCS Bin/Bin-mt folders. Just turn on the three "override" switches using nvidia profile inspector in common section and select whatever preset you want there as well. null 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 9800X3D, RTX 4090, 96GB DDR 5, MSI Tomahawk 870E, Crucial 2TB x 2, TM WARTHOG COMBO + PENDULAR RUDDER PEDALS, THE AMAZING PIMAX 8K X, Sony 5.1 Spks+SubW | DCS, A-10C_II, AH-64D, F-14/15E/16/18, F-86F, AV-8B, M-2000C, SA342, Huey, Spitfire, FC3.
sleighzy Posted February 22 Posted February 22 18 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said: Clean install, no mods of any kind, restore only the f/a-18C and 3 maps, copy all 3 DLL files and update the overrides using NPI, still CTD... Gives up totally. If using NVPI like you mention you don’t need to copy any dlls in. Does it still work fine if you don’t copy/replace those dlls in DCS? AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
markturner1960 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 18 hours ago, WipeUout said: If you use Nvidia driver 572.XX, there is no need to copy any dll to your DCS Bin/Bin-mt folders. Just turn on the three "override" switches using nvidia profile inspector in common section and select whatever preset you want there as well. null This is the information we need....All these guides are not clear. Thanks 1 System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor.
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted February 22 Posted February 22 8 hours ago, sleighzy said: If using NVPI like you mention you don’t need to copy any dlls in. Does it still work fine if you don’t copy/replace those dlls in DCS? Well, will give this a try. But where should I put the DLLs? Thanks. I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
sleighzy Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Just now, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said: Well, will give this a try. But where should I put the DLLs? Thanks. You mean the Nvidia nvngx_dlss.dll file (and others)? Nowhere. With the NVPI config change to enable the override and set the preset it will automatically use the DLSS version that ships with the driver. The one in DCS is ignored. So no dlls need to be put anywhere. 3 1 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) Great thanks! Update: it works wonder, so far no crashes, with QVFR, very little smearing and ghosting. Confirmed I am running the latest with Preset K on now. Edited February 22 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants 1 I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
TimSell75 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 vor 11 Stunden schrieb markturner1960: This is the information we need....All these guides are not clear. Thanks So,if I understand it correctly this is all I have to do to enable DLSS4 in DCS? All the lengthy guides of the past weeks can be ignored? CPU: i9-14900K, RAM: 64GB DDR4 3200, GPU: RTX5090 32GB, HD: M2 PCIe 2TB Pimax Crystal Super Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster TPR Rudders
jnr4817 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 who is using the j preset over the k and why? 9800x3d|64 GB 6200|4090|m.2 x2 http://www.blacksharkden.com/ Come join us!
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