Shrike vs SA-8; What am I doing wrong?

[sirrah]

I've been watching several tutorials and doing some reading, but I can't figure out why my Shrikes plummet to the ground as soon as I launch them.

 

I created a very simple mission, starting airborne at 15.000ft about 20nm from an SA-8 and loaded 4 Shrikes with the MK 49 mod 1 seeker.

When in the mission, I set:

• WPN REL to DIRECT
• WPN SEL to ARM
• select the correct stations
• master arm ON
• mode to AG

Soon I hear the missle beeping. When within 8nm I still hear a steady tone, press the bomb release button and my Shrike just instantly goes for the ground (nowhere near the SA-8). I know the SA-8 is still emitting, because it launches at me.

 

Obviously I'm doing something wrong here, but what? 

(track file and mission added)
 

F4 Shrike practice.miz Shrike directly heading for ground.trk

[Esac_mirmidon]

For the SA-8 the only seeker that works is the MK-37 but you will have no tone.

 

Edited February 25 by Esac_mirmidon

[sirrah]

3 minutes ago, Esac_mirmidon said:

For the SA-8 the only seeker that works is the MK-37 but you will have no tone.

 

 

Ah ok, that explains it. I suppose this quick guide post needs to be updated then :

 

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[Zabuzard]

The actual data to refer to is our manual:

https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/stores/air_to_ground/missiles/shrike.html#land-based-threats

If the data there is outdated, yes please update it. Either you or us, the manual can be edited by anyone, its open source  

[Northstar98]

2 hours ago, Esac_mirmidon said:

For the SA-8 the only seeker that works is the MK-37 but you will have no tone.

 

Note that this table is incomplete and some of the guidance sections that currently work might not do so in the future (like all of the ones currently able to target the SA-13 - no guidance section should be able to target it) and conversely some of the guidance sections which don't currently work properly may do so in the future (for instance, the Mk 49s against the SA-6's fire-control radar (1S31 SNR), where the 1S91 (which mounts 1S11 and 1S31 radars) is listed as the radar these guidance sections should be able to target).

I've posted a complete table listing applicable seekers and whether they work or not here, unless ED changes what frequency the respective radars operate at (which they may do for the SA-13 and the SA-6's acquisition radar), this should remain true long-term:

 

Also note that the Mk 37 will only target the acquisition radar, not the fire-control radar (not that it matters in DCS - currently it's not possible to have the fire-control radar transmit and the acquisition radar remain silent, - IRL it's perfectly possible to have the acquisition radar off the air, acquire targets visually via the TV camera and only have the fire-control radar on the air immediately before missile launch).