Dora 4k Cockpit Upgrade and Overhaul

[SAB0T]

1 hour ago, MiGCap1 said:

@Sabot No problem, many thanks!

I didn't was aware of this bug, @Doughguy. I only wondered why the EZ 42 works so badly and didn't use it as much. I mostly use it like a traditional gunsight.

honestly i just set the wingspan of the target, adjust the range to where the reticle is the width of where i like to usually shoot at the target and call it good....haven't noticed any issues but it would be nice to fix this

[Doughguy]

5 hours ago, SAB0T said:

honestly i just set the wingspan of the target, adjust the range to where the reticle is the width of where i like to usually shoot at the target and call it good....haven't noticed any issues but it would be nice to fix this

just change the scale lettering back from 400 to 100... ED did a very lazy job on fixing this "bug"....it was 100 before and then the scale will work again, even if not "correct"

the mark for 300, 600 etc are all working, only the 100/400 mark is totally off...

Edited March 9 by Doughguy

[Tzigy]

9 hours ago, Doughguy said:

just change the scale lettering back from 400 to 100... ED did a very lazy job on fixing this "bug"....it was 100 before and then the scale will work again, even if not "correct"

the mark for 300, 600 etc are all working, only the 100/400 mark is totally off...

Tgat or, imho, I would keep the marks historically correct. And just use it as it was intended IRL...

Having said that, I have not found it very accurate...the US KN sight MUCH better...

[Doughguy]

50 minutes ago, Tzigy said:

Tgat or, imho, I would keep the marks historically correct. And just use it as it was intended IRL...

Having said that, I have not found it very accurate...the US KN sight MUCH better...

100 meter mark was intended for 100 meters.. 400 for 400... however.. our now 400 mark is set for a target at 100m... its not correct.. technically, nor historically.. 
But tell me, how it was intended to be used IRL..

Maybe its not accurate cause you use the wrong numbers. I have no probs with that sight using the correct numbers.

 

Edited March 9 by Doughguy

[Doughguy]

On 3/7/2025 at 10:55 PM, SAB0T said:

Absolutely, I chose black because its what I saw in photos, brown very much couldve likely been used depending on who made what, if it was replaced etc etc though id expect the brown leather to be much darker than the stock d9 cockpit.... by this time in the war cockpits have german cockpits have also gotten much darker, it was all about glare reduction. Even the standard RLM 66 paint used has inconsistencies from plane to plane, so there is plenty of room for interpretation :).  That wood instrument panel however had to go, I could not find a single record of a dora using a wood panel even with the material shortage during that period, also looks like balsam wood lol with grains that widely spaced that thing would disintegrate after a minute of it shaking like that haha

Attached image of a real He162. It is a Plywood panel. A jet plane. Not the only part that was made of wood on the He162

The D9 and later models did indeed use alot of plywood parts. Said dashboard, gearcovers, flaps, and various caps.
The only surviving D9 we have that exhibited it a converted A8 iirc.
The only late war example is the D13, that actually has wooden flaps installed.

 Perfectly correct

You can also see the difference between a black (instruments) and RLM 66, which is a darker-medium grey.

 

 

Edited March 9 by Doughguy

[SAB0T]

1 hour ago, Doughguy said:

Attached image of a real He162. It is a Plywood panel. A jet plane. Not the only part that was made of wood on the He162

The D9 and later models did indeed use alot of plywood parts. Said dashboard, gearcovers, flaps, and various caps.
The only surviving D9 we have that exhibited it a converted A8 iirc.
The only late war example is the D13, that actually has wooden flaps installed.

 Perfectly correct

You can also see the difference between a black (instruments) and RLM 66, which is a darker-medium grey.

 

 

SO COOL! thanks

[Tzigy]

15 hours ago, Doughguy said:

4 hours ago, Doughguy said:

Attached image of a real He162. It is a Plywood panel. A jet plane. Not the only part that was made of wood on the He162

The D9 and later models did indeed use alot of plywood parts. Said dashboard, gearcovers, flaps, and various caps.
The only surviving D9 we have that exhibited it a converted A8 iirc.
The only late war example is the D13, that actually has wooden flaps installed.

 Perfectly correct

You can also see the difference between a black (instruments) and RLM 66, which is a darker-medium grey.

 

 

 

Absolutely. Lot of wood, especially late war. Plus I do believe the Dora midsection panel was always wood...

Also, btw, Doughguy, your Dora skins are superb. Have been using those exclusively and DCS should make them official!!!!

Edited March 9 by Tzigy
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[Doughguy]

d9 panel

[_JMax]

6 hours ago, Doughguy said:

Attached image of a real He162. It is a Plywood panel. A jet plane. Not the only part that was made of wood on the He162

The D9 and later models did indeed use alot of plywood parts. Said dashboard, gearcovers, flaps, and various caps.
The only surviving D9 we have that exhibited it a converted A8 iirc.
The only late war example is the D13, that actually has wooden flaps installed.

 Perfectly correct

You can also see the difference between a black (instruments) and RLM 66, which is a darker-medium grey.

 

 

Thanks for posting these images etc. Really interesting history.The Dora is a favourite for me....and the P38 in IL2 

[DB 605]

13 hours ago, Tzigy said:

Absolutely. Lot of wood, especially late war. Plus I do believe the Dora midsection panel was always wood...

 

 

Both were used on Doras, duralumin and plywood ones. Late war german planes such thing as "always" didn't exists  Panels were supposed to be wooden but different subcontractors, already done stocks and other variables meant both versions were used until the end.

 

Edited March 10 by DB 605

[MiGCap1]

On 3/9/2025 at 2:45 AM, SAB0T said:

honestly i just set the wingspan of the target, adjust the range to where the reticle is the width of where i like to usually shoot at the target and call it good....haven't noticed any issues but it would be nice to fix this

That's exactly what I do. 

 

[HARTMANN1145]

Hi Sabot....some great work here looking at the pics,would love to use this and the one for the K4 but for the life of me I cant get them to work?

Copied and placed the folder where advised but its still using the default cockpit Skin...should I delete the default completely or do I place it inside of the default or just next to it?

Do I have to un zip the folder?

Do these skins only work for online games?

 

Edited March 16 by HARTMANN1145

[Art-J]

Follow the readme instructions added to K4 mod. No, you can't delete anything. Yes, you have to extract the zip.

For example, the final path In in Dora's case should be ....Saved Games/DCS/Liveries/Cockpit_FW190D9/Sabot fw190d9/. This is where all .dds files and description.lua need to go.

Then, once in the game, go to special options for Dora or Kurfy and click "customized cockpit" window to select between default and Sabot's one.

Edited March 16 by Art-J

[HARTMANN1145]

All sorted now thank you...nice work indeed Sabot

[aceviper]

Very nice work thank you.

Flying with this cockpit over Bartheks  Normandy summer textures mod is stunning!!

[Art-J]

After testing the upgrade for a while I decided to go back to stock textures. Improved detail of upgraded ones is great, but with gamma 2.2 I use they just seem to be much darker then the ones in 4k-modded Kurfy or stock Anton. Too dark, more of a faded black rather than RLM66 dark grey.

I can only presume SAB0T used the same base colour as in Kurfy mod, so maybe it's just the question of how (imperfect) DCS lighting and shading engine works? In either case, I'd love to see a somewhat lighter version someday, more in line with Kurfy cockpit repaint.

Love the Kurfy and Mustang mods, though, I'm keeping these!

[Kiwi_Viper]

yeh awesome job mate all 3 are keepers :-}