My track IR 5 is driving me crazy!!!

-Scrat- · March 15

Hi,

I have just bought a new computer on which I have installed DCS.

Everything was great in terms of performance etc, until I installed the Track IR 5 with 5.5.3 software and this was the beginning of all the trouble.

When I used the Track IR software, the trackclip was working fine, however when I used the TrackclipPro, it was not smooth and I experienced lots of jittering. I went onto the Track IR forum where someone mentioned that I had to revert the soft to 5.4.2 to avoid the lack of smoothness with TrackclipPro.

I did this, and the smoothness problems disappeared however I still have the jittering issue, which I do not have with the normal Trackclip.

On top of that, I now have big performance issues on DCS with lots of stuttering, whether or not I use the Track IR.

I have been doing simulation for 10 years using track ir and this has never happened before.

Any idea how to resolve these issues? It's driving me crazy!!!

Thanks for your help.

Have a great day

Scrat

speed-of-heat · March 15

Has your refresh of your monitor changed?

-Scrat- · March 15

8 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

Has your refresh of your monitor changed?

Thx for your reply, I have tried to set 120Hz on my monitor + windows display and limit the fps to 120 in DCS but no change

speed-of-heat · March 15

Try 60hz? Also try it without TIR enabled

-Scrat- · March 16

8 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

Try 60hz? Also try it without TIR enabled

Thx for your message.

Whatever I do in terms of settings eg. 60 or 120.. I still have the Track IR jittering when using the TrackclipPro, with Trackclip it's very stable.

TIR your mean Track IR right ? with or without Track IR software running it doesn't change anything. I have tried to put 60hz but no change, there's still stuttering in the game. It's really weird and it happens randomly, sometimes it is smooth and all of a sudden when I reload the game for instance, it becomes stuttering.

e.g.

If I set to 60hz, I get some drops between 45-50, and then suddenly it gets back to 60 with image distortion when I look around.

If I set to 120, I get some drops around 90, and suddenly it gets back to 120, again with image distortion when I look around.

When I set it to unlimited, depending on the scenery density, the FPS can go up to 160-170 inside the cockpit fairly stable, and then suddenly I get some drops around 100-120.

Hope this is clear. It's driving me crazy, I've never ever had these issues on my previous configuration so don't know what to do

I don't know if it can help, here's my current configuration :

Asus Z890 Extreme motherboard

Intel Ultra Core 9 285K

ASUS 5090 RTX TUF

RAM 64Gb

Screen ASUS PG42UQ with Overclocking at 138hz

Windows 11

Any clue ?

Thx for your help.

Scrat

Edited March 16 by -Scrat-

speed-of-heat · March 16

TIR = Track IR, yes. When you say it doesn't change anything do you mean it behaves with out any drops, I assume so? screen over clocking is never a great idea, in this kind of game and often will introduce artefacts ...

just throwing stuff at the wall :

Try a different USB port check to see if there are any other devices that are conflicting, remove every USB device and add them back in one at a time see if it starts to "happen"
has the pro clip had any damage?
have you updated the proclip driver recently ? have you tried rolling it back ?
if it's a new windows 11 installation, make sure you have turned of memory integrity and the VMP (Options to optimize gaming performance in Windows 11 - Microsoft Support)

hope that helps

speed-of-heat · March 16

core parking can introduce stuttering, so make sure that is turned off (I use ParkControl – Tweak CPU Core Parking and More) you can do it by hand, this is just easier, not sure why this would only impact TIR .. but worth doing

make sure that your usb devices do not have power management enabled , windows has a tendency to tuirn things off (do this via device manager)

make sure you have your power profile set to ultimate performance control panel > hardware& Sound > power options

USB HOTPLUG is off in game ?

BitMaster · March 16

I would, before you may waste more time, try your TiR setup on another PC to verify it is working properly and not defect.

Once you know it is 100% in working order troubleshoot your PC further.

SharpeXB · March 16

8 hours ago, -Scrat- said:

Intel Ultra Core 9 285K

Check out this thread. It looks like DCS currently doesn’t assign cores to these CPUs correctly.

8 hours ago, -Scrat- said:

Screen ASUS PG42UQ with Overclocking at 138hz

Have you tried disabling this overclocking? Maybe it’s not a factor but worth trying. My screen has a similar feature I sorta recall something odd when using that.

SharpeXB · March 16

8 hours ago, -Scrat- said:

I still have the Track IR jittering when using the TrackclipPro, with Trackclip it's very stable.

This seems to indicate the trouble is with the TrackClip Pro. I use the TrackClip with no troubles. Never tried the Pro however. It might be worth just replacing it since it’s not very expensive.

104th_Money · March 17

Make sure you have completely uninstalled all of the TrackIR and Natural Point folders before reinstalling the 5.4.2 software...You can google the post about the full instructions. The simple uninstall app will not work. Also, make sure you have Windows Defender exceptions for TrackIR in 2 different places. You can google that part also.

-Scrat- · March 17

Hi,

@speed-of-heat @BitMaster @SharpeXB @104th_Money

Thank you so much for help ! I really appreciate it...

After 48 hours of checks, here are my findings :

Regarding the stuttering in DCS, indeed it was coming from the Core reaching 100%. As soon as I changed the core affinity the stuttering stopped immediately.

About my Track IR, jittering is unfortunately still there when using TrackclipPro

I have tried the Track IR (TrackclipPro) on anther computer and it seems to be better, almost no jittering.

Any clue ?

Once again thank you so much for your great help.

Scrat

104th_Money · March 17

@-Scrat-

i did a hardware upgrade and clean reinstall on my pc recently and noticed TrackIR/track clip pro stuttering after installing latest software, I think 5.5.2 or 3? Was using 5.4.2 with no issues up until that point. I got mine semi-reasonable with the latest software by setting custom smoothing and speed but I plan on giving the downgrade a in the near future. You can determine if the stuttering is from TIR by just looking straight ahead. If u have stutters like that, it’s not TrackIR, I got my stutters only when looking around which indicates it is most likely TrackIR issues. Also, set your fps to either 60 or 120. TrackIR polls at 120 so u need to have fps set to either for it to work properly.

SharpeXB · March 17

18 minutes ago, 104th_Money said:

Also, set your fps to either 60 or 120. TrackIR polls at 120 so u need to have fps set to either for it to work properly.

This seems plausible but I can’t tell any difference when trying this. It always seems smooth to me regardless. If anything I can perceive the lower frame rate at 60 vs the higher 117 I have capped on my screen.

cgrxman · March 18

Are the red IR LEDs illuminated on the TrackIR base unit even with TrackClipPro selected? I had an issue where even though I selected TrackClipPro, they were still lighting up. This resulted in poor performance of TrackIR (reflections, maybe?). To fix, I pressed the TrackClip button, then back to TrackClipPro. LEDs out and it took care of the jittering for me.

For me, the stuttering was another issue and it seemed to be related to WinWing's SIMAPP.

-Scrat- · March 18

Hi,

I have tried to set the monitor, and the screen at 120 but no change at all.

3 hours ago, cgrxman said:

Are the red IR LEDs illuminated on the TrackIR base unit even with TrackClipPro selected? I had an issue where even though I selected TrackClipPro, they were still lighting up. This resulted in poor performance of TrackIR (reflections, maybe?). To fix, I pressed the TrackClip button, then back to TrackClipPro. LEDs out and it took care of the jittering for me.

For me, the stuttering was another issue and it seemed to be related to WinWing's SIMAPP.

Yes all IR LED's are off.

Please find enclosed 2 videos :

- video 1093 MOV with TrackclipPro, as you can see very jittering, unable to fix a specific area

- video 1094 MOV with Trackclip, as you can see very stable easy to track a specific area

I have ordered the Tobii Eyetracker to compare just in case.

Once again thanks for your support guys.

Scrat

speed-of-heat · March 18

the movies make it look like head movement ...

cgrxman · March 19

What's the Smooth slider set at (next to the TrackIRPro button we talked about earlier)?

-Scrat- · March 22

I bought a new TrackclipPro and it seems I don't have any more issues so far. Will keep you posted

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