fixed George is jerky and erratic with the TADS depending on zoom level

[Floyd1212]

(I performed a Repair of DCS, and removed all aircraft and tech mods from my saved games folder before launching DCS and recording this track.)

I created a simple mission with a few units in front of a hot-start aircraft.  These issues were also observed in a cold-start scenario, and in both SP and MP.

BUG:

The movement of the TADS is now jerky and erratic depending on zoom level.

OBSERVE:

Throughout the 3 minute track you can see me telling George to find targets and then I cycle through them in the list.  When using FLIR and at the Wide zoom level, his motion is extremely abrupt with a quick oscillation back and forth when he gets to the target.  He used to be much smother with his panning and scanning, and would do a pretty good job hitting center of mass when left in FLIR Wide.  When you zoom to other FOV levels, he seems to be more natural.

After switching him to DTV, he scans fine in Wide, but when I set him to Medium he freaks out and jiggles around all over the target.  Moving to Narrow and Zoom FOV and he seems back to normal.

A few times I would zoom in to show where he has picked up the IAT on the vehicle out toward the bumper or some other extremity of the vehicle.

This appears to be a new bug introduced in 2.9.14.8222 as this was all working much better prior to that.

Jerky TADS.trk

[Guest]

On 3/21/2025 at 3:10 PM, Floyd1212 said:

(I performed a Repair of DCS, and removed all aircraft and tech mods from my saved games folder before launching DCS and recording this track.)

I created a simple mission with a few units in front of a hot-start aircraft.  These issues were also observed in a cold-start scenario, and in both SP and MP.

BUG:

The movement of the TADS is now jerky and erratic depending on zoom level.

OBSERVE:

Throughout the 3 minute track you can see me telling George to find targets and then I cycle through them in the list.  When using FLIR and at the Wide zoom level, his motion is extremely abrupt with a quick oscillation back and forth when he gets to the target.  He used to be much smother with his panning and scanning, and would do a pretty good job hitting center of mass when left in FLIR Wide.  When you zoom to other FOV levels, he seems to be more natural.

After switching him to DTV, he scans fine in Wide, but when I set him to Medium he freaks out and jiggles around all over the target.  Moving to Narrow and Zoom FOV and he seems back to normal.

A few times I would zoom in to show where he has picked up the IAT on the vehicle out toward the bumper or some other extremity of the vehicle.

This appears to be a new bug introduced in 2.9.14.8222 as this was all working much better prior to that.

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Hi Floyd1212,

Before I open another bug report- have you also experienced (since the 19 March update) that the 'Cross' showing where George is looking, no longer goes over the target?  When I ask him to look now, the cross jumps all over the place, and no matter where the target is, the cross finished up by staying fixed 'straight ahead'?

Thanks,

'52

[Tholozor]

1 hour ago, Gunslinger52 said:

Before I open another bug report- have you also experienced (since the 19 March update) that the 'Cross' showing where George is looking, no longer goes over the target?  When I ask him to look now, the cross jumps all over the place, and no matter where the target is, the cross finished up by staying fixed 'straight ahead'?

Did you set the ACQ source to TADS? Also, by chance did you have the FCR installed and selected as the pilot's sight source?

[Floyd1212]

3 hours ago, Gunslinger52 said:

Before I open another bug report- have you also experienced (since the 19 March update) that the 'Cross' showing where George is looking, no longer goes over the target?  When I ask him to look now, the cross jumps all over the place, and no matter where the target is, the cross finished up by staying fixed 'straight ahead'?

Yes, as noted in this other bug report:

 

[rwbishUP]

George is broken again.

george broke again.trk

Edited March 27 by rwbishUP

[BIGNEWY]

Hi all, this has been reported 

thank you 

[Guest]

22 hours ago, Tholozor said:

Did you set the ACQ source to TADS? Also, by chance did you have the FCR installed and selected as the pilot's sight source?

Hi Tholozor,

yes to both.

Cheers

'52

[Jeb]

On 3/26/2025 at 5:39 PM, Gunslinger52 said:

Hi Floyd1212,

Before I open another bug report- have you also experienced (since the 19 March update) that the 'Cross' showing where George is looking, no longer goes over the target?  When I ask him to look now, the cross jumps all over the place, and no matter where the target is, the cross finished up by staying fixed 'straight ahead'?

Thanks,

'52

same for me, he cannot now show me where he is looking

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Jeb said:

same for me, he cannot now show me where he is looking

For me it's only when I have the FCR selected as the sight.  The same thing happens when I have a human CPG too, which I wasn't expecting.

Hopefully we'll see a fix in the next update.

[rwbishUP]

No fix this week neither, I assume?

[BIGNEWY]

We have an internal fix that should come in one of the next DCS Updates. Please check out the change log once published. 

thank you