Rongor Posted Sunday at 02:55 PM Posted Sunday at 02:55 PM 57 NDBs across the map have their frequencies in thousands of kHz, so they end up as MHz and are unusable. This is easily noticeable on the mission editor map. They show correct ingame on F10 map, yet you can't receive these when tuned to the regular kHz number. Affected NDBs: West-Germany - Bremen BW and BMN - Hamburg FU - Hehlingen HLI - Braunschweig BRU - Fritzlar FTZ - Fulda FDA - Hahn HAH - Schweinfurt SCF - Giebelstadt GBL East-Germany - Leipzig-Halle SK, S, M and MA - Leipzig-Mockau G - Dessau WN and W - Cochstedt SL and S - Zerbst ZB, Z, K and KJ - Altes Lager LG, L, B, BM - Stendal U and UK - Neuruppin GK, G, W and WD - Finow RG, R, O and OM - Parchim AS, A, U and UU - Neubrandenburg T, T, D and DT - Tutow Y and YC - Laage RL, R, L and RL - Peenemünde EN, E, N and NE Berlin - Tempelhof DBR and DIP all these 57 NDBs require to have their frequencies corrected by division by 1000. 5 1
Volator Posted Sunday at 03:00 PM Posted Sunday at 03:00 PM Thanks, I was about to scan the map for all these wrong frequencies to make a bug report, you saved me a lot of time and effort. 1 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven
Ian Boys UK Posted Sunday at 10:11 PM Posted Sunday at 10:11 PM It seems to me that West Germany should be in Mhz but is in KHz? Whereas East Germany should be in Khz but is in MHz? Not an expert by any means but that's how I see it?
Rongor Posted Sunday at 10:16 PM Author Posted Sunday at 10:16 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ian Boys UK said: It seems to me that West Germany should be in Mhz but is in KHz? Whereas East Germany should be in Khz but is in MHz? Not an expert by any means but that's how I see it? This would contradict my list in the first post, which clearly has airfields from both sides of the iron curtain. NDBs work in the LF/MF range. kHz is the standard. Edited Sunday at 10:17 PM by Rongor 1
Thadeyus Posted Monday at 06:38 AM Posted Monday at 06:38 AM (edited) Most "ILS Far Beacon" and "ILS near Beacons" are affected. There entry in the ...\Mods\terrains\GermanyColdWar\beacons.lua are wrong (3 "000" to much). You could fix this yourself if <ou edit this .lua file. Yust search for BEACON_TYPE_ILS_FAR_HOMER and BEACON_TYPE_ILS_FAR_HOMER the Frequency is listed in Hz there, so for the affected Frequency/ Beacon just delete 3 zeros. 10 hours ago, Ian Boys UK said: It seems to me that West Germany should be in Mhz but is in KHz? Whereas East Germany should be in Khz but is in MHz? Not an expert by any means but that's how I see it? This makes no sense. These are VOR NDB Beacons used for Airfield approaches. there Frequency Range are from 108 kHz to 1179.5 kHz. Edit: Thanks Rongor for Clarification Edited Monday at 09:04 AM by Thadeyus Correction
Rongor Posted Monday at 07:38 AM Author Posted Monday at 07:38 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Thadeyus said: These are VOR Beacons used for Airfield approaches. there Frequency Range are from 108 kHz to 1179.5 kHz. Both of you guys are confusing things and I wish we could have kept all this out of this thread. VOR are VHF Omnidirectional Range radionavigational aids operating in the VHF band (hence the name) between 108 MHz and 117.95 MHz, historically only used west of the Iron curtain. NDB are Non-Directional Beacons operating in the LF and MF bands, between 190 and 1750 kHz. Its an ancient concept, used by east and west alike. NDBs can be used along airfield approach paths, often co-located to Outer and Middle Marker Beacons (which operate on 75 MHz, transmitting vertically upwards within a limited cone. These approaches may also be supported by an ILS but neither the NDBs nor the Outer/Middle markers are in any way part of ILS itself or "ILS beacons", even while they are apparently named like this inside DCS lua files. ILS is an ICAO standard which during cold war times has been widely implemented in the west (globally today) and at 5 airfields only in East Germany (Leipzig, Erfurt, Dresden, Berlin-Schönefeld and Neuhardenberg). ILS is a combination of Localizer (operating between 108.10 and 111.95 MHz within the VOR frequency range) and Glideslope (operating in the 329-335 MHz range) transmitters. Warsaw pact airfields would instead use a RSBN/PRMG combination, which is incompatible to ICAO-ILS. For Warsaw pact airfields, an array of outer/inner beacons is often provided to guide on approach paths laterally from both approach directions of a runway. These are in fact NDBs. While they can be co-located to additional Marker beacons, they must not be confused with these. Edited Monday at 07:41 AM by Rongor 5
Thadeyus Posted Monday at 12:00 PM Posted Monday at 12:00 PM Thanks for the additional Information. Here is a Fix for the NDB Frequencys Meanwhile i corrected the Beacons.lua, To use it just replace the beacons.lua in your DCS folder ...DCS World\Mods\terrains\GermanyColdWar\ with the attached one. These Changes are LOCAL, so you could use them on Multiplayer. The Integrecy Chick didn't find an issuer with the edit. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK beacons.lua 1
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